Posted on 11/15/2007 5:13:16 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran
If you want an AR-style rifle without the gas tube, check out Robinson Arms. (Available in 6.5mm and 6.8mm)
http://www.robarm.com/index.htm
Any idea when they’re going to start selling those?
I love my PLR, but I think I’d like that even more.
The best I can tell you is to watch the following three sites for info:
The Kel-Tec CNC factory RFB Rifle webpage
The Kel-Tec Owners' Group website
And, since the RFB uses the magazine of the FN-FAL and though forward-ejecting, reportedly has some FAL-derived parts, The FAL Files Forums
Those damn stick-on inventory control RFID tags can be a real pain. Though I've made a little headway by observing that they can present a violation of OpSec basics.
Of course, you can always go to places where combat losses can be claimed....No $hi!, there I was, once upon a time....
Yep, we sanitize all gear or purchase in country from pickups are us. Most of the tracking bar codes etc come on cases in my world. We don't take cases due excess weight considerations.....and the fact the gear gets lost easily without the case in came in.
All honesty.......I used to lose the Seiko's & Marathon's watches a lot. I went thru about a dozen in my career. They wanted to issue a thousand dollar watch with a fifty cent watch band that's their burden to bear and my pride to wear !
Stay safe ......LOL !
I too have come to prefer the triangle to most of the *dot inside a doughnut* or crosshairs/doughnut reticles that have come my way.
I remain very fond of the inverted post and side crosswire reticle, however.
The IOR Valdada MP9 reticle on their 1.1-4 x 26mm tac sight isn't bad either, and neither is their CRT CQB reticle three-quarter doughnut reticle.
They may find me dead in a ditch somewhere. But by Gawd, there'll be a pile of empty brass around me....
--usually seen attributed to Trooper M. Padgett....
Almost as well as my Bushmaster M4 A3:
Yep I have seen places ike that and pics of places that stand out as alamo last stands or record......The 051 bunker at Tan Son Nhut Air Base .
Security team there was abandoned as they were thought to have been captured / killed in initial stages of the fight there when the base was overrun.
That bunker was trashed by B40’s PG 2 etc and so many chinks in the concrete bunkers surface it looked like the moon. Those guys had 3 or 4 M-60’s , personal GAU5/A’s XM177’s etc and had the mini gun cans (20mm) of ammo stashed inside. lots of it . The 1:10 ratio of tracer kind in beau coup pucker factor belts. They melted a few barrels and used cases of 40mm fired in old M148’s but those guys took on a hell of a stand against all odds . they found em in day light looking like meerkats in shock.
Last place I saw a floor covered with brass was Kuwait airport when we got jumped by stragglers that tried to take out a team from Campbell I was assigned too (ODA591 ?)...... the then new M249’s w/ 200 hundred round boxes were smoking as we had to shoot and scoot out of a tunnel with no side egress or cover. A poor boy peel of the nth degree as they tried to throw grenades down the long tunnel at us but the wimps never got close with em. LOT’s of brass that few minutes !
Pucker factor was high for me.....the girl scouts I was with were happy as pigs in mud. Go figure.......:o)
I peeked at the S&W flavors of that rig .....didn’t know Remington was in the AR business now ???
Cool.....ditto on he Bushmaster !
I have an HBAR with lots of uppers and a original Bushie M4 carbine as well with a new optics ready version also. Was fingerbangin a Bushmaster with the gas port system last night at local gunrunners and asked if that was the same as the HK 416...........couldn’t get an answer. Or at least one I believed from a counter commando selling me a line.
Stay safe !
Any particular reason why? Other than January 20th, 2009?
Security team there was abandoned as they were thought to have been captured / killed in initial stages of the fight there when the base was overrun.
I arrived in-country at Ton Son Nhut on the afternoon of 30 January '68, went through the usual in-processing paper chase and around 1700 was sent off to a casual barracks to get a little rest from the 10-hour flight from Guam. The NVA/VC force hit at around 0320 hours, Bunker zero-five-one being one of their first targets, the 5 USAF Security Policemen inside being hit by a force of 600-750 NVA regulars atrtacking from Highway One. The SPs went down fighting to the last man, taking several hundred enemy along for the trip. One of the 5 survived, continued calling in air support once he got another radio that worked, and got the Silver Star for his trouble 31 years later.
The time they bought fighting and dying gave us enough time- about 20 minutes- to wake up and get weapons and ammo, and get to fighting positions before the rest of several NVA battalions hit us. I was about up by Gate 55 in the Alpha Sector, quarter-mile from the old French runway fort that had formed the Bunker 051 position, and spent the night there with two USAF mechanics with M2 carbines and an M60 MG, which they did not know how to load or run barrel changes on; we had a very short weapons fam class on the spot.
Ammo was not a problem; they'd brought a pair of ammo cans for USAF AC47 *Puff the Magic Dragon* birds; 3000 rounds each. I had a USAF M16 [no bolt assist] with the stock and foreend painted blue and a nice white parade sling for honor guard use. And three full magazines, 20 rounds each for it, two of which I carried in my shirt pockets for web gear, not having been issued LBE yet. The M113 ACAVS of the 235th Infantry did their best imitation of the cavalry riding to the rescue, took seriously brutal B40 fire coming up Route One, and cleared the fence around 0600, when they caught a sizable portion of the NVA force in the open on the runway. And I quit making fun of 25ID guys for their *Electric Pickle* shoulder patch for a long time asfter that....
Amazingly, Bunker 051 still exists today and can be seen, or could be as late as 1968. And the voices of the 5 USAF SPs doing their jobs as long as they could can still be heard. 
As a young tank crewman, I got in the bad habit of taking off my $200 PX Accutron and laying it in the ring gear in which our tank turret traversed. No sweat, I had my turret power switch cut off so no one could move the turret.
Until one bad day at the office when the driver, wanting in his hole, popped in through the loader's hatch, and switched power on and cranked the turret around 90º so he could get in his compartment in front, blocked by the gun mantlet. I was sufficiently cold and out of it enough that he didn't bother my snooze in the slightest.
I was not a happy camper when I woke up to a radio check call for us. After that, it was cheapie Seikos and Timexes for me. I generally wanted a really cheap watch with a plastic case when they could be had, and told guys going on R&R to Tokyo to bring me back a couple of the cheapest ones. They were nicer to have on while servicing radion and doing other things with low voltage where accidental circuit closings were not desired. But my all-time favorites were a little harder to find.
No complaints with your opinion, most of those with serious experience seem to develop certain preferences along the way...which does not mean we can't get the job done with a bamboo umbrella if that's all that's available. My complaint with the M16 family is based on neither the rifle itself nor the cartridge, of which at least a great many can be carried. But the magazine for the rifle, which is straight going into the magazine well, and then curves to allow reasonably reliable feeding of more than 20 rounds, is a really, really bad design, a leftover from the original straight-side 20 round magazines envisioned by Gene Stoner in the days when the U.S. M14 riflle carried 20, and so did the nifty BAR then still in NG and reserve service.
The M16 magazine is certainly the worst thing about the rifle. I can make do with the cartridge [or do something about it for my own rifle] but you can't get away from a hundred million crappy M16 magazines made by the lowest bidders.
Glad that guy got his recognition. He and the ones with him had it all along from me and my guys.
Almost wish they’d have had the M134D’s of current Dillion design. 3 of those with a Mk-19 or two would have made even charles take a wide route around the 051 gate.
I worked with a guy who was in one of the old V100 commandos that night. He said they were thick in the grass and they had run out of ammo and had taken a PG2 round that disabled the little APC.....said it was the first time he ever had to disassemble a M60 under fire and start burying parts and throwing em too all parts of the compass to prevent the VC from getting em..... he said he knew he was dead as he even did an emergency destruct on his own GAU 5A. They never came for him........sprouse I think his name was.
Good stuff!!
I’m trying! Thanks; any idea about pros/cons, 30-06 or win.308?
ping for later
My son in law is due back from the sand box. I may be at Ft, Hood next month.
But when the balloon goes up, I’m taking my AK. You can’t kill it w/a stick, it hits what I point it at, and it never, ever, ever, fails. I might someday buy an AR-10, if they’ll get rid of the direct gas system, and go w/a piston. At least it shoots a bullet that starts w/3 (or 7, for the metric guys).
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