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To: Kevmo; moder_ator

Are you really this stupid?

I have said to you on many occasions that this has nothing whatsoever to do with who I support or who I don’t support.

If I switched my support to Duncan Hunter this instant you would still be a liar and a fool. And worse, in my view.

The only issue I have been trying to drill into is that Hunter’s contract on Intrade at 10 cents is not selling because there are no buyers for it at this price, and no sellers at the next tick down, which is ZERO - a free good. If a signficantly smaller tick value could be introduced, the contracts WOULD trade, although, contrary to your fevered expectations, they would trade DOWN.

This has nothing whatever to do with the silly crap on the Intrade Froum or your silly crap here. I tried to explain to you why there aren’t any buyers for Hunter’s contract(essentially it’s overpriced), but you only response was that I don’t know what I’m talking about and I should look at the Intrade forum to see how the experts there would savage my position.

So I looked and while the general level of comment there is a notch or so above yours, NO POSTER on Intrade is trying to sell the nonsense that the reason Hunter’s Contract is not selling is because it is undervalued. Such a comment on a trader’s forum would instantly become the butt of some serious humor.

So, again, you lied. And you continue to lie.

Now I am going to get personal. You are contemptible because you revel in your own ignorance. Of all human frailties this is the worst. Admission of ignorance is the first step in education, and you aren’t willing to take even that first step.

It would actually be a good thing for yo to be banned from Free Republic again. Your absence would definitely raise the average level of debate.


144 posted on 11/16/2007 7:35:26 PM PST by John Valentine
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To: John Valentine

Here. I found where what I was saying was basically acknowledged by someone who says he was a former stock trader.

It disproves your contention explicitly. This is the 2nd time in a few days I’ve been called a liar on this forum by Thompson supporters, and the last one basically withdrew the accusation with a one-sentence change in my post that did not change the meaning at all, it was just semantics.

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Tozikio wrote:

I think Huckabee and Paul are taking support
from Fred. These are the people who are looking
for “something or someone else” — they thought
they’d find it in Thompson, and didn’t.

On the ideology scale, Hunter is closer than Huckabee or Paul. That is only New Hampshire polling data, and that state has its own strange political mixture. There’s a thread right here at Intrade discussing Hunter and the possibility of gaining traction.

https://bb.intrade.com/intradeForum/posts/list/1797.page

He’s polling at 3-4%, which is a bump up from what Delphi called Asteriskville. I would expect to see some liquidity in the Hunter contracts coming up pretty soon.

15/11/2007 13:08:00 Subject: Re:Thompson is tanking. Why?
Tozikio

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You’re right in an objective sense. But I think in the
early stages of the primary, the voters themselves
don’t know what they want. Thompson had created
a chameleon-like reputation before entering the race.
He could be anything to anybody since it wasn’t
clear how he would campaign.

Independent leaning Republicans had already
decided against the early announced and best
funded candidates. The fall of McCain was known even
before Thompson entered. It was assumed that Thompson
could vacuum up all the dissatisfied voters.

In a nutshell, Thompson had the “support” of the soft,
window shopping voters back in early September. People
are making up their minds now and drifting elsewhere.

I also agree that New Hampshire is a quirky place. But
Thompson needs to show some reasonable mass appeal.
If he gets single digits there, it could affect his results in
South Carolina.


148 posted on 11/16/2007 8:00:21 PM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: John Valentine

The only issue I have been trying to drill into is that Hunter’s contract on Intrade at 10 cents is not selling because there are no buyers for it at this price, and no sellers at the next tick down, which is ZERO - a free good. If a signficantly smaller tick value could be introduced, the contracts WOULD trade, although, contrary to your fevered expectations, they would trade DOWN.
***Then how can you accuse me of lying? My theory was that a person could put $100 down on Hunter today and if his Intrade #’s started tracking the polling data (Ron Paul and Huckabee the 2 most recent examples), the guy would get 40X return on investment, and in order to get 40X return on Fred you’d have to go for the whole kit & kaboodle. All you are saying is that his contracts are valued low, and my response to that was “COOL”. I still say it looks like a bargain. There is no lie there.

This has nothing whatever to do with the silly crap on the Intrade Froum or your silly crap here. I tried to explain to you why there aren’t any buyers for Hunter’s contract(essentially it’s overpriced), but you only response was that I don’t know what I’m talking about and I should look at the Intrade forum to see how the experts there would savage my position.
***And I found evidence that they agree with what I say. That means what I’m writing is not a lie.

So I looked and while the general level of comment there is a notch or so above yours, NO POSTER on Intrade is trying to sell the nonsense that the reason Hunter’s Contract is not selling is because it is undervalued. Such a comment on a trader’s forum would instantly become the butt of some serious humor.
***The point you’re driving her is some kind of semantics issue, isn’t it? I think that’s what happens when someone posts an analysis like mine and the data seems to correlate but it doesn’t look good for a certain candidate. That’s why the last freeper called me a liar over semantics and I think you’re doing the same. It is evidence that the Thompson campaign is falling apart.

So, again, you lied. And you continue to lie.
***And I have PROVED that I did not lie, quoting directly from that forum that you said not a single post supported my theory.


149 posted on 11/16/2007 8:07:39 PM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: John Valentine

Now I am going to get personal.
***The rules on this forum are very explicit, no personal attacks.

You are contemptible because you revel in your own ignorance. Of all human frailties this is the worst. Admission of ignorance is the first step in education, and you aren’t willing to take even that first step.
***If the reader will go over to the original thread
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1926032/posts?q=1&;page=251
the reader will see that in post ~300-306 or so I basically identified logical fallacy after fallacy and, for the first time I’ve ever seen it, a true straw argument within a straw argument. Your contention that I’m ignorant was shot down over there when your buddy tried to do it on that thread, and I’ve proved to you that my theory is supported over at Intrade. You are the contemptible one here, calling someone a liar over semantics because it doesn’t look good for Thompson.

It would actually be a good thing for yo to be banned from Free Republic again. Your absence would definitely raise the average level of debate.
***likewise, prince.


150 posted on 11/16/2007 8:14:19 PM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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