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U.S. panel urges vigilance on China spying, cyber war
http://www.reuters.com/article/internetNews/idUSN1423827920071115 ^

Posted on 11/15/2007 11:10:54 AM PST by dit_xi

By Paul Eckert, Asia Correspondent

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Chinese espionage posed "the single greatest risk" to U.S. technology, a congressional advisory panel said on Thursday and called for efforts to protect industrial secrets and computer networks.

The U.S.-China Economic and Security Review Commission also called in its annual report to Congress for closer work with China to promote energy security and deal with environmental problems such as climate change and pollution.

The panel urged the U.S. Congress to examine "military, intelligence, and homeland security programs that monitor and protect critical American computer networks and sensitive information, specifically those tasked with protecting networks from damage caused by cyber attacks."

"Chinese espionage activities in the United States are so extensive that they comprise the single greatest risk to the security of American technologies," the report said.

China was supplementing impressive gains in research and development of commercial and military technology with an "aggressive and large-scale industrial espionage campaign" that required S. Congress to examine and consider increasing funding for export controls and counterintelligence, it said.

China's military, growing and making technological gains at a pace that often surprised experts, also required greater scrutiny, said the report, based on hearings with experts and officials over the past year.

"Sophisticated weapon platforms are coming off production lines at an impressive pace and with impressive quality," it said. It recommended beefed up U.S. intelligence and checks into whether the Chinese were gaining military technology from research conducted by U.S. firms in China.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chicoms; china; industrialespionage
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1 posted on 11/15/2007 11:10:55 AM PST by dit_xi
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To: dit_xi
impressive gains in research and development of commercial and military technology

Idiots. Why don't they just ask someone in the steady stream of countless engineers and technicians flying back and forth over the Pacific how China can possibly be getting their hands on all this technology.

2 posted on 11/15/2007 11:17:49 AM PST by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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To: dit_xi

It’s hard not to like Duncan, but he needs name recognition...sadly, the general election is becoming more and more like a popularity contest than one on the issues...would love to elect Duncan...but...I just dont see it happening unless he gets Thompson as a running mate.


3 posted on 11/15/2007 11:20:18 AM PST by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis.")
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To: dit_xi
Back in the 1920's/30's Japan was similarly aggressive, particularly towards US/UK navy ship building tech.

In one instance --and it has been awhile since I read of the event, so I'm foggy as to if it was the UK or the US-- but Japan's bald efforts were sooo well known that they made blueprints for an ambitious battleship, specifically to BE STOLEN.

And Japan stole those prints, faithfully building the monstrosity, which when launched TURNED OVER IN THE WATER --the center of gravity was specifically designed to make the ship do that to the ship.

4 posted on 11/15/2007 11:22:53 AM PST by gaijin
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To: dit_xi

IMHO there should be a moritorium on the hiring of any naturalized (1st gen) chinese immigrant to positions, which could come in contact with any sensitive data/technical information...

Second, the Japanese should be limited in regard to their access to secret US tech and any sensitive militqary technology that may not be so secret...until the Japanese can control their urges for Chinese hookers...


5 posted on 11/15/2007 11:26:58 AM PST by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis.")
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To: in hoc signo vinces

Why hire people from hostile nations for sensitive positions? Why admit immigrants from hostile nations?


6 posted on 11/15/2007 12:17:35 PM PST by Jane Austen
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To: dit_xi
Articles like this are so alarmist.

China's ability to manufacture is almost entirely due to her integration into the global economy. Nearly everything she has learned has been acquired out in the open.

Just look at auto manufacturing. First, final assembly was brought in. Then, parts manufacturers. And now, design and research centers. And in all three categories, auto manufacturers, openly move and provide China auto production capabilities.

My guess, because of this integration, China is only a decade away from being a varacious competitor in auto exports.

This will be how China will catch up with the developed nations. Not through bits and piece of information from the cloak and dagger setting. But from openly doing business with the West and Japan and putting the tens of millions of college graduates to work.

7 posted on 11/15/2007 2:49:29 PM PST by ponder life
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To: ponder life; All
Articles like this are so alarmist.

China's ability to manufacture is almost entirely due to her integration into the global economy. Nearly everything she has learned has been acquired out in the open.


You obviously are underinformed!
 
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THE CLINTON WHITEHOUSE IS TO BLAME: 
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The White House Dismissed Warnings on China Satellite Deal

Another reason not to elect THE CLINTONS again.
Reference 0028-001MReference 0079-001MReference 0041-001MReference 0054-001M
http://www.house.gov/coxreport/
http://www.house.gov/coxreport/cont/gncont.html

Cox Committee Votes Unanimous 1,100-Page Report on PRC Targeting of U.S. Military Technology

    WASHINGTON, D.C.(Wednesday, December 30, 1998)—The Select Committee on U.S. National Security and Military/Commercial Concerns with the People’s Republic of China unanimously voted to approve a five-volume, 1,100-page report on the transfer of sensitive U.S. technology to the PRC. The report goes well beyond the two cases that spurred the investigation, involving Space Systems/Loral and Hughes, and addresses PRC targeting of not only so-called "dual-use" technologies, but also sensitive military technologies.


http://www.fas.org/news/china/1998/h980618-prc7.htm

 


ESTABLISHING THE SELECT COMMITTEE ON U.S. NATIONAL SECURITY AND MILITARY/COMMERCIAL CONCERNS WITH THE PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA (House of Representatives - June 18, 1998)

From the New York Times, June 1, 1998

[FROM THE NEW YORK TIMES, JUNE 1, 1998]

The White House Dismissed Warnings on China Satellite Deal

(BY JEFF GERTH AND JOHN M. BRODER)

Washington.--The caution signs made it evident that the application by Loral Space & Communications to export a satellite to China earlier this year was anything but routine.

Justice Department prosecutors warned that allowing the deal could jeopardize possible prosecution of the company for an earlier unauthorized technology transfer to Beijing. The Pentagon reported that Loral had provided `potentially very significant help' to China's military rocket program. And senior White House aides cautioned that the deal was certain to spark opposition from critics of the Administration's nonproliferation and human rights policies toward China.

But the White House pressed ahead, concerned about the financial costs to Loral of delaying approval of the deal and certain that it could defend the decision against subsequent criticism.

Rarely is the public given a detailed look inside the White House decision-making process on a matter of national security as sensitive as the export of a satellite to China. These records ordinarily remain sealed for years, buried under the Government's strict regime of secrecy.

But documents produced by the White House 10 days ago in response to a demand from Congress provide an unusually rich account of the evolution of a Presidential decision in which numerous warning signals were raised and then dismissed.

According to the records, the February decision by President Clinton to approve the Loral satellite launching was treated as an urgent matter not because of its importance to the national security, but because the company was facing heavy fines for delay.

Concerns about European competition for the satellite business and fears that
denying the deal would damage the United States-China relationship overrode words of caution from other Government agencies.

The presumption throughout was that the deal would be approved, as had 19 previous applications under Presidents Clinton and Bush. The documents reflect the White House staffs search for a defensible rationale for the decision.

Federal and Congressional investigators are now examining what led the President to risk political embarrassment by creating the perception that he might be letting Loral--headed by the Democratic Party's largest campaign contributor--off the hook in a serious criminal inquiry into whether Loral executives helped China's missile program.

DECISION TRACED TO A SATELLITE CRASH

Samuel R. Berger, the national security adviser, had a preemptive answer in the decision memorandum he forwarded to the President on Feb. 12. The memo briefly noted the Justice Department's concerns and referred to the possibility that Loral might have significantly aided China's military rocket program.

But he urged the President to approve the deal regardless.

`In any case,' Berger wrote, `we believe that the advantages of this project outweigh this risk, and that we can effectively rebut criticism of the waiver.'

Clinton approved it with his distinctive backward check mark six days later.

Since 1989, the export of American satellites for launching on Chinese rockets has been suspended as a result of sanctions imposed after the killings in Tiananmen Square. A deal can go forward only if the President concludes that the export is in the national interest and issues a waiver.

President Bush approved all nine waiver requests that reached this desk; President Clinton routinely followed the practice in his first four years in office, signing 10 waivers with little internal debate or external controversy.

But the waiver Clinton signed on Feb. 18 was not routine. The roots of his unusual decision trace back two years when a Chinese rocket carrying a Loral satellite crashed into a village seconds after liftoff, killing and injuring dozens of civilians.

A few months later, Loral led an outside review team to help the Chinese figure out what had happened. The company says its officials did nothing wrong. But Loral also acknowledged serious mistakes in a June 1996 disclosure to the State Department, including an admission that it allowed the Chinese to see its lengthy review of the rocket mishap without prior Federal approval. Such technological assistance to the Chinese requires prior Government approval, which Loral had not received.

At virtually the same time that Loral made its disclosure to the Government, the company was seeking another Presidential waiver for a satellite. Its chairman, Bernard L. Schwartz, donated $100,000 to the Democratic Party four weeks before the waiver application was approved in early July 1996 by Clinton.

It is not known whether Loral's help for the Chinese was mentioned in the memorandum that went to the President because the White House has not released documentation on that decision.

It is known that the State Department had already alleged in a letter to satellite industry executives that there had been a violation of American export control laws in the accident review.

But as of July 1996, no criminal inquiry was under way. The Justice Department began its investigation only after the Pentagon completed an assessment of the accident review in May 1997.

That is the same month Loral applied for its most recent waiver, for the Chinasat 8 satellite.

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COMPANY'S CONCERNS REACH WHITE HOUSE

The first notice to the White House of unusual problems with the Chinasat 8 waiver application came in an early January memorandum from the State Department detailing the factors for the President to consider.

Although couched in careful bureaucratic language, the State Department document made it clear that this was no routine export license application.

The State Department pointed out that China's transfer of missile technology to Iran might prohibit the export of the Loral satellite or any other satellites or related items.

`Moreover' the State Department memo stated, `information about unauthorized defense services provided by Space Systems/Loral and another U.S. firm to China's Long March 3B Launch Vehicle' could lead to imposition of harsh sanctions against the company.

But the State Department and other agencies nonetheless recommended granting the waiver, because the deal would enhance the United States' leadership in commercial telecommunications, provide an incentive for China to adhere to international nonproliferation rules and improve trade ties with Beijing.

After virtually no debate at the White House, the State Department memorandum was rewritten as a decision paper for the President.

The State Department's concern about technology transfers to Iran appeared nowhere in the decision document, but a new element is inserted in the first and in most subsequent drafts. The President must act quickly, the draft states; any delay will cost Loral money.

`Due to severe contractual penalties which Loral will incur if it cannot begin technical discussions with the Chinese by next week, we recommend that you take action on this issue by January 20,' read the first draft of the Presidential memorandum, dated Jan. 13.

A day earlier, Loral officials had made known to the White House their frustration at the slow Government response to their waiver application, which was submitted in May 1997.

A Loral letter found in White House files stated that unless the approval is granted within a week, the launching scheduled for November, would be delayed by several months, costing the company at least $6 million. Any such
delay would give the Chinese grounds for canceling the project, which would cost Loral $20 million, the company warned.

`Our competitors in Europe,' Loral officials complained, `do not suffer delays due to export licensing or legal complications.'

The company's concerns clearly were heard at the White House.

A senior aide at the National Security Council, Maureen E. Tucker, repeatedly pressed for a rapid decision in forwarding early drafts of the Presidential decision paper to associates at the council.

She described the memorandum and accompanying documents as `a very quick turnaround package for which I am seeking your clearance by tomorrow,' she wrote on Jan. 13.

By Jan. 20, one frustrated aide scrawled on a draft of the memo, `Needs to go to POTUS today!!' POTUS is the White House jargon for President of the United States.

But the waiver request was held up by questions from Berger, who asked his legal aides to research the status of the Justice Department investigation and determine whether it would bar approval of the waiver.

Tellingly, Berger asked Gary Samore, the National Security Council's top weapons aides to research the status of the Justice Department investigation and determine whether it would bar approval of the waiver.

Tellingly, Berger asked Gary Samore, the National Security Council's top weapons proliferation export, in a handwritten note if the approval can be granted in phases `to get over immediate crunch.'

Berger did not ask whether Loral's cooperation with the Chinese after the 1996 accident would require denial of the export license. Instead, he wonders in the note to Samore where there is `anything we can hang our hat on to characterize Loral's `offense.'

Berger's aides sought advice from officials at the State Department, who informed them that Loral's offenses appear to be `criminal' and `knowing.' Ms. Tucker was told that the Pentagon investigated Loral's assistance to the Chinese after the 1996 missile explosion and concluded that the company provided `potentially very significant help' to Beijing's ballistic missile program.

BEHIND DECISION TO GRANT A WAIVER

The White House counsel Charles F. C. Ruff told a Security Council lawyer that the Justice Department's investigation mattered less than maintaining close diplomatic and business relations with China.

`Issue is not [underlined twice] impact on DOJ litig(ation),' the Security Council deputy counsel Newell Highsmith wrote in notes of his conversation with Ruff, `but whether bilateral U.S.-China concerns and economic factors outweigh risk of political embarrassment.'

A principal argument behind Clinton's decision was that it would be unfair to penalize Loral by denying it a license if it was under investigation but had not been charged with any crimes.

The export law allows the President to deny a license if the license seeker has been indicted or if there is `reasonable cause to believe' the license seeker `has violated' United States export control laws. The White House documents show that some White House and State Department officials believed the latter, but Administration officials say they relied on a 1993 State Department memo which said that companies will be denied licenses only after indictment.

`In an ideal world we would wait until this matter is resolved,' Malcolm R. Lee, a National Security Council aide, told other White House officials in an electronic message a month before the President's decision, referring to the pending Justice Department inquiry. But, Lee added, `that is impracticable.'

A senior Administration official, speaking not for attribution, said that waiting for the results of the Justice Department investigation could delay the satellite launching for months, if not years.

And, the official added, `There were some imperatives to get a timely decision because of the penalties facing the company.'

But the company acknowledges that no such penalties have been imposed and the launching is still scheduled for November, as it has been for the last year.

`We believe we will not incur penalties because we can work around the problem,' a Loral official said late last week.

PENTAGON TROUBLED BY LORAL'S ROLE

The President did not receive a detailed assessment of the potential damage to American security caused by Loral's help to China in determining the cause of the 1996 launching failure. The Pentagon was troubled by Loral's technological assistance because the rocket science involved in putting a satellite into orbit is similar to that needed to deliver a nuclear warhead.

The Pentagon relying on Air Force missile and intelligence experts, did not find grave damage but did conclude that the United States national security had been harmed, according to Administration officials.

A White House official said that the National Security Council never received the Pentagon report, which was prepared to assist the State Department. `We did the best we could in the memo for the President in describing what we understood to be the allegations,' the official said. `We didn't beat around the bush.'

White House aides overcame the major impediment to the waiver--the concern of Justice Department prosecutors that it would jeopardize any possible prosecution--by relying on the fact that `the Department had every opportunity to weigh in against the waiver at the highest levels and elected not to do so,' as Ruff, the White House counsel, wrote on Feb. 13.

But Justice Department officials say that Ruff, in his discussion with Robert Litt, the top aide to the Deputy Attorney General, asked only about the impact of the waiver on possible prosecution--not whether the department opposed the waiver.

It is not known how the Justice Department would have answered that question.


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8 posted on 11/17/2007 9:47:30 AM PST by Wolverine (A Concerned Citizen)
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To: Wolverine
First of all, I am talking more about the country as a whole. Not just military. China's ability, for example, to mass produce Cadillacs has everything to do with GM's business dealings there.

As far as military goes, I've seen that argument about Loral many times. Did you know that no one at Loral was prosecuted with a crime? Oh, there were those who thought they should have been tried for treason, but the reality is, no one was found to have done any criminal wrong doing.

Also, what about the following from the article?:

The Pentagon relying on Air Force missile and intelligence experts, did not find grave damage but did conclude that the United States national security had been harmed, according to Administration officials.

How much was really given to the Chinese? It was on a rocket putting a satellite into space. The reliability of Chinese rockets was about 75%. Loral concluded that there was an O-ring problem. And that small help did bring it to 100% reliability.

But despite the improper legalities, how much technical help did Loral really give to the Chinese? China had already produced, a functioning rocket. Loral just fixed some glitches.

9 posted on 11/18/2007 7:25:14 PM PST by ponder life
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To: ponder life; Alamo-Girl; All
My comments include excerpts from Alamo-Girl's THE DOWNSIDE LEGACY, a Freeper diary of Clinton years.
 
 
But despite the improper legalities, how much technical help did Loral really give to the Chinese? China had already produced, a functioning rocket. Loral just fixed some glitches.
 
The Chinese were never able to achieve orbit UNTIL they got technology from Loral.
 
HIGH TREASON TIME LINE - ARCHIVE LINKS

[To 1993] - [1994] - [1995] - [1996] - [1997] - [1998] - [1999] - [Back to High Treason]

1996-1997 A report by the Senate Committee on Governmental Affairs in January 98 noted that "not a single supercomputer export to China of 47 had either a pre-license check or a post shipment verification from January 1996 to March 1997 ."

1996-1998 A team headed by Loral (Hughes in attendance) produced a technical report identifying a problem in the flight-guidance system as the cause of the crash in February 1996 (Long March.) The report also identified other weaknesses in the rocket. The American experts didn't check with the State Department, the report was given to the Chinese. Several months later, they ``turned themselves in'' to the State Department, after which, the Pentagon launched an investigation, and concluded in its report, labeled ``secret,'' that ``United States national security has been harmed.'' Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R., Calif.), Chairman of the House Space and Aeronautics Subcommittee, said that U.S. expertise has ``perfected'' China's Long March rockets, which are identical in design to Chinese strategic nuclear missiles. A Loral employee said "The most interesting aspect of the accident was this: engineers who reviewed the recovered payload debris noticed something special that was missing: encryption hardware."

Oh, there were those who thought they should have been tried for treason, but the reality is, no one was found to have done any criminal wrong doing.

They got a total pass from Reno, Richarson, O'Leary, Madeleine Albright and I believe BY DIRECTION OF CLINTON. Louie Freeh, FBI Director, resigned in part because of it!
 
In 1997, GAO reported that foreign visitors were allowed into DOE's nuclear weapons design laboratories with few background checks and inadequate controls over the topics discussed. ….. UPI 7/11/00 Ashley Baker
 

"…In early 1997, with the FBI's investigation making scant progress and the Energy Department's counterintelligence program in limbo, Trulock (trashed by Clinton) and other intelligence officials began to see new evidence that the Chinese had other, ongoing spy operations at the weapons labs…. But Trulock was unable to quickly inform senior U.S. officials about the new evidence. He asked to speak directly with Pena, the energy secretary, but had to wait four months for an appointment…. Pena immediately sent Trulock back to the White House -- and to Berger…."In July 1997 Sandy was briefed fully by the DOE on China's full access to nuclear weapons designs, a much broader pattern" said one White House official. Officials said Berger was told that there was evidence of several other Chinese espionage operations that were still under way inside the weapons labs…. Berger quickly briefed Clinton on what he had learned and kept him updated over the next few months, a White House official said. As Trulock spread the alarm, his warnings were reinforced by CIA Director George Tenet and FBI Director Louis Freeh, who met with Pena to discuss the lax security at the labs that summer…." New York Times 3/06/99 Jeff Gerth

Remember the political environment in early 1997. Sen. Fred Thompson (R-Tenn.) had just launched his heralded probe of campaign finances and predicted that he would find a deliberate plot by the Chinese government to influence the American election. What remained obscure was China's motive. The Democrats loudly derided Thompson for his suspicions of a Chinese plot. If Thompson had been aware of major and systematic Chinese spying and theft of our most vital secrets while he was conducting his hearings, there would have been hell to pay. Reno did a great political service to the president and disservice to America in not allowing the FBI to proceed. Between the time of her rejection of the FBI request for access and the actual inspection of Lee's computer last month, reports indicate that upwards of 300 files have been transferred and deleted - New York Post 5/11/99 Dick Morris

In 1988 and again in 1997, GAO reported that foreign visitors were allowed into DOE's nuclear weapons design laboratories with few background checks and inadequate controls over the topics discussed. ….. UPI 7/11/00 Ashley Baker

The Pentagon relying on Air Force missile and intelligence experts, did not find grave damage but did conclude that the United States national security had been harmed, according to Administration officials.

New York Times 5/16/99 "...It is hard to imagine a more damaging American security failure than the serial hemorrhage of nuclear-weapons secrets and other military information to China over the last two decades. Each new disclosure adds to a picture of breathtaking incompetence by Federal agencies and lack of vigilance by Republican and Democratic administrations alike. The United States might as well have dumped its most sensitive defense secrets on Pennsylvania Avenue for Chinese spies to pick up. Then there is the Clinton Administration's inert response to possible Chinese campaign contributions in 1996, and the Justice Department's lack of interest in tens of millions of dollars that flowed from China into a small Los Angeles bank the same year. Little wonder both Republicans and Democrats in Congress want to know whether the Administration willfully ignored all these Chinese provocations so it could improve relations with Beijing. In recent weeks, Jeff Gerth and James Risen of The Times have described three serious security breakdowns, two at nuclear weapons laboratories and one involving work by a private defense contractor. In all cases, there seems to have been a loss of critically important information to China that could be used to modernize Beijing's small arsenal of nuclear weapons or help it develop other military technologies. In each instance, security measures were lax and Federal criminal investigations proved ineffectual..... This is no way to run a government....."

The London Telegraph 5/15/99 Ben Fenton ....Wen Ho Lee are believed to have handed China enough information to update their relatively primitive nuclear arsenal in years rather than decades. The information obtained by The Telegraph is the first clear indication that Britain's nuclear deterrent has been put at risk. According to court documents made available to this newspaper, Peter Lee was a member of the ROIP for at least six years before the FBI discovered he was divulging details of the technology to Chinese military scientists...."

Washington Times 4/13/00 Bill Gertz "……..China is providing assistance to Libya's long-range missile program and made its latest technology transfer to the North African nation last month, according to U.S. intelligence officials………… The director of the National Security Agency (NSA), Lt. Gen. Michael Hayden, outlined the transfer in a classified report sent March 2 to senior U.S. government officials. Disclosure of the NSA report on the missile cooperation follows announcement Tuesday that the United States and China will resume talks on the spread of weapons of mass destruction and missiles to rogue states……"

See more here.


10 posted on 11/19/2007 2:22:08 AM PST by Wolverine (A Concerned Citizen)
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To: Wolverine

Thank you for remembering the DSL!


11 posted on 11/19/2007 8:39:23 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Wolverine
The Chinese were never able to achieve orbit UNTIL they got technology from Loral.

China's first satellite was put into space in 1970. So Loral was part of that?

A Loral employee said "The most interesting aspect of the accident was this: engineers who reviewed the recovered payload debris noticed something special that was missing: encryption hardware."

What is encryption hardware and how is it related to launching a rocket? I'm not disagreeing with it, I'd just like a clearer understanding of what it is. Is it a system that navigates a rocket? Is it a must in order to send a satellite into space? How did China put a satellite up into space without?

12 posted on 11/19/2007 11:08:26 AM PST by ponder life
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