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To: lormand; mnehrling
From the mint, I'll wait till this plays out before getting too excited about government abuse.

 NORFED’s "Liberty Dollars"

http://www.usmint.gov/consumer/index.cfm?flash=yes&action=HotItems


The National Organization for the Repeal of the Federal Reserve Act and the Internal Revenue Code (NORFED) is producing and marketing gold and silver medallions that NORFED calls "Liberty Dollars." The United States Mint and the United States Department of Justice have received inquiries regarding the legality of these so-called "Liberty Dollar" medallions. The United States Mint urges consumers who are considering the purchase or use of these items to be aware that they are not genuine United States Mint bullion coins and they are not legal tender. These medallions are privately produced products and are not backed by, nor affiliated in any way with, the United States Government. Moreover, prosecutors with the Department of Justice have determined that the use of these gold and silver NORFED "Liberty Dollar" medallions as circulating money is a Federal crime.

Consumers may find advertisements for these medallions confusing and should take note of several issues related to them.

First, the advertisements refer to the product as "real money" and "currency." These medallions might look like real money because they—

However, despite their misleading appearance, NORFED "Liberty Dollar" medallions are not genuine United States Mint coins and they are not legal tender.

Second, the advertisements confusingly refer to NORFED "Liberty Dollar" medallions as "legal" and "constitutional." However, under the Constitution ( Article I, section 8, clause 5 ), Congress has the exclusive power to coin money of the United States and to regulate its value. By statute ( 31 U.S.C. § 5112(a) ), Congress specifies the coins that the Secretary of the Treasury is authorized to mint and issue and requires the Secretary to carry out these duties at the United States Mint (31 U.S.C. § 5131). Accordingly, the United States Mint is the only entity in the United States with the lawful authority to mint and issue legal tender United States coins.

Under 18 U.S.C. § 486, it is a Federal crime to utter or pass, or attempt to utter or pass, any coins of gold or silver intended for use as current money except as authorized by law. According to the NORFED website, "Liberty merchants" are encouraged to accept NORFED "Liberty Dollar" medallions and offer them as change in sales transactions of merchandise or services. Further, NORFED tells "Liberty associates" that they can earn money by obtaining NORFED "Liberty Dollar" medallions at a discount and then can "spend [them] into circulation." Therefore, NORFED’s "Liberty Dollar" medallions are specifically intended to be used as current money in order to limit reliance on, and to compete with the circulating coinage of the United States. Consequently, prosecutors with the United States Department of Justice have concluded that the use of NORFED’s "Liberty Dollar" medallions violates 18 U.S.C. § 486.

 

 


85 posted on 11/15/2007 8:21:00 AM PST by SJackson (every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and figtree, none to make him afraid,)
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To: SJackson
Libertarians, Anarchists, what's the difference?

< /rhetorical question >

103 posted on 11/15/2007 8:26:58 AM PST by lormand (Ron Paul - The Idiot's Idiot)
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To: lormand; mnehrling
Apparently this has been going on for awhile. The group filed a lawsuitagainst the Treasury Dept earlier this year, apparently contending it's barter currency. And it's possible this has nothing to do with the coin. I'd wait and see.
136 posted on 11/15/2007 8:35:42 AM PST by SJackson (every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and figtree, none to make him afraid,)
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To: SJackson; Richard Poe; Jim Robinson; Southack; kcvl; Liz; pissant; Impeach98; stephenjohnbanker

Currency substitution with both an antiwar and profit agenda?

It may be merely a gargantuan coincidence that George Soros, one of the world’s most infamous currency-manipulators abroad, is unquestionably doing all sorts of things to disrupt our winning the WOT... and rumored to be a shadow supporter of Ron Paul to depress and split the Conservative vote....


293 posted on 11/15/2007 9:53:33 AM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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