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FBI raids Liberty Dollar office-confiscates Ron Paul Dollars
http://www.rabidquill.com/ ^ | Nov 15, 2007 | "BJT"

Posted on 11/15/2007 7:50:21 AM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder

Frontal Assault on Freedom: FBI Raids Liberty Dollar Posted by BJT on Nov 15, 2007 Read this email closely. I just got it this morning. Those of you who consider the gold standard a quaint anachronism, pay extra close attention. If Ron Paul supporters, gold standard advocates and the Liberty Dollar were nothing but harmless kooks, why would the FBI raid their offices when no crime was ever committed? This is a currency competing with the USD, yes, but they never, but never make the claim that it is legal tender or anything other than what it is: private currency. And private currencies are numerous in the USA.

No. This raid happened because the Liberty Dollar, the second most popular currency in the country, threatens to usurp the entrenched power of the Fed’s Almighty Dollar. People can see the buying power of the greenback eroding, and they will choose something else if it is available, and the Liberty Dollar is ready and waiting. And that’s why the government must resort to force in order to protect its stranglehold on the economy.

From Liberty Dollar Headquarters: Dear Liberty Dollar Supporters:

I sincerely regret to inform you that about 8:00 this morning a dozen FBI and Secret Service agents raided the Liberty Dollar office in Evansville.

For approximately six hours they took all the gold, all the silver, all the platinum and almost two tons of Ron Paul Dollars that where just delivered last Friday. They also took all the files, all the computers and froze our bank accounts.

We have no money. We have no products. We have no records to even know what was ordered or what you are owed. We have nothing but the will to push forward and overcome this massive assault on our liberty and our right to have real money as defined by the US Constitution. We should not to be defrauded by the fake government money.

But to make matters worse, all the gold and silver that backs up the paper certificates and digital currency held in the vault at Sunshine Mint has also been confiscated. Even the dies for mint the Gold and Silver Libertys have been taken.

This in spite of the fact that Edmond C. Moy, the Director of the Mint, acknowledged in a letter to a US Senator that the paper certificates did not violate Section 486 and were not illegal. But the FBI and Services took all the paper currency too.

The possibility of such action was the reason the Liberty Dollar was designed so that the vast majority of the money was in specie form and in the people’s hands. Of the $20 million Liberty Dollars, only about a million is in paper or digital form.

I regret that if you are due an order. It may be some time until it will be filled… if ever… it now all depends on our actions.

Everyone who has an unfulfilled order or has digital or paper currency should band together for a class action suit and demand redemption. We cannot allow the government to steal our money! Please don’t let this happen!!! Many of you read the articles quoting the government and Federal Reserve officials that the Liberty Dollar was legal. You did nothing wrong. You are legally entitled to your property. Let us use this terrible act to band together and further our goal – to return America to a value based currency.

Please forward this important Alert… so everyone who possess or use the Liberty Dollar is aware of the situation.

Please click HERE to sign up for the class action lawsuit and get your property back!

If the above link does not work you can access the page by copying the following into your web browser. http://www.libertydollar.org/classaction/index.php

Thanks again for your support at this darkest time as the damn government and their dollar sinks to a new low.

Bernard von NotHaus


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: bananas; currency; evillittlegnome; fiat; gold; kooks; libertydollar; norfed; nothaus; nutz; paulestinians; paultards; retreadalert; ronpaul; silver; sniff; zotbait
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Comment #581 Removed by Moderator

To: Centurion2000

“Then I guess the US Mint better go after every single freaking MC/VISA gift card ever made. Those are effectively private currencies as well.”

If that is true, then wouldn’t a personal check also be a ‘private currency’ as well and shouldn’t the US Mint ‘go after’ anyone who ever wrote one?


582 posted on 11/15/2007 6:05:55 PM PST by DugwayDuke (Ron Paul - building a bridge to the 19th century.)
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To: Dead Corpse

Depends on what your definition of “is” is. ;)

The government reneged on silver certs in 1968. They are worth slightly more than a dollar today, if in good condition, to collectors.

Bonus points if you can define a “dollar” today!


583 posted on 11/15/2007 6:08:27 PM PST by Freedom4US
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To: Reason v. Rhetoric; darkwing104

Ia Ia Cthulhu Ftagn!


584 posted on 11/15/2007 6:13:39 PM PST by Darksheare (Cordite Chipmunk, the Splodent Rodent.)
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To: mogambo

“If there is criminal activity (fraud) on the part of Liberty, it will be of the nature of issuing more receipts than you have reserves, or trying to use the coins as margin or other illegal activity involving the utilization of false inventory.”

This is what banks do. It’s called fractional reserve banking.


585 posted on 11/15/2007 6:30:50 PM PST by Sue Bob
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

I don’t really care for or respect kooks. When they defraud their fellow citizens...


586 posted on 11/15/2007 6:31:41 PM PST by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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587 posted on 11/15/2007 6:40:30 PM PST by Old Sarge (This tagline in memory of FReeper 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub)
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To: Darksheare

“In his house at R’lyeh, Great Cthulhu lies dreaming”


588 posted on 11/15/2007 6:44:21 PM PST by dynachrome (Immigration without assimilation means the death of this nation~Captainpaintball)
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To: Old Sarge

“Reason v. Rhetoric”
this one?


589 posted on 11/15/2007 6:46:24 PM PST by dynachrome (Immigration without assimilation means the death of this nation~Captainpaintball)
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To: dynachrome
“Reason v. Rhetoric”

rgr


590 posted on 11/15/2007 6:49:24 PM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: darkwing104

one post newbie.


591 posted on 11/15/2007 6:50:24 PM PST by dynachrome (Immigration without assimilation means the death of this nation~Captainpaintball)
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To: dynachrome

Yep!


592 posted on 11/15/2007 6:55:12 PM PST by Old Sarge (This tagline in memory of FReeper 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub)
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To: Old Sarge; darkwing104
Suggest entire thread has become a target-rich environment with post -'n-runners, arrogant noobs, double agents and multizot-retreads.

Possible precursor to full-scale assault on multiple fronts.

Advise: proceed with caution.

Advise: Special vigilance for retreads as some have infiltrated FR mail servers, vis-a-vis multi-zot, anti-Fred zealots.

Advise: watch for enemy language, vis-a-vis fiat, unconstitutional...

Suggested mission codephrase: Liberty Scam.

593 posted on 11/15/2007 7:32:26 PM PST by 50mm (Inside every cynical person, there is a disappointed idealist - G. Carlin)
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To: dynachrome

Correction: one post newbie with attitude.


594 posted on 11/15/2007 7:36:29 PM PST by 50mm (Inside every cynical person, there is a disappointed idealist - G. Carlin)
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To: Reason v. Rhetoric

595 posted on 11/15/2007 7:55:43 PM PST by TNPatriot (No arsenal ... is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women. -RR)
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To: Darksheare

HUH?? : )


596 posted on 11/15/2007 8:04:28 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: untrained skeptic
LOL! They might be unhappy with him, but short of wage laws I really don't think they can do a thing. There is a possibility that one will find coins worth more than their face value in circulation, and they are legal tender.

Now, if the employee were to sell the coins, then the IRS might have a way to be involved.

Were I the employee, I would find places to spend money where there were deep price discounts for those who made payment in gold and silver specie, and avoid the tax trap.

Somewhere along the line, though, they will try to tag someone for the difference when they sell the coin for Federal Reserve currency.

597 posted on 11/15/2007 8:57:11 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Reason v. Rhetoric; darkwing104; Old Sarge; dynachrome
Let us Cry havoc and let slip the Bunnies of War!






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598 posted on 11/15/2007 8:59:32 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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