Rudy Giuliani acknowledges flaws in first TV ad [Doesn't address Kerik or reputed mob ties]

NY Daily News ^ | 11/15/2007 | David Saltonstall

[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

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[TitansAFC]

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[kittymyrib]

Rudy has way too much baggage to run against Hillary. He will be portrayed as a corrupt Mafia stooge and the Clintons will not have to worry about their shady past. They should be contributing to his campaign.

[AppyPappy]

Why would mention the bad stuff?

[Eastbound]

"The ad casts pre-Giuliani New York as a dark, scary place with black-and-white images of a police officer handling a suspect, burned out tenement windows and X-rated shops . . . "

'Death Wish 7' starring Rudy Guiliani. Matinee at 2 p.m.

[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

Why would mention the bad stuff?

If you're going to coyly allude to "not being perfect" in the first place: why not just come right out and be specific? Seems to me that all this fey hemming and hawing and hinting on his part only makes him look even more devious (assuming that's even remotely possible, I mean), rather than less. ;)

[inkling]

Rudy’s “mob ties” — you mean when he took them all down and they wanted to assassinate him? Jeez...

[edcoil]

There is a positive to Rudy vs Hillary. It would show the world we have dived to the bottom and hit it and could not get any lower on whom we select for President.

The only direction is up.

[dead]

The ad casts pre-Giuliani New York as a dark, scary place with black-and-white images of a police officer handling a suspect, burned out tenement windows and X-rated shops. But that gives way to a Technicolor city where couples happily jog and move boxes into new homes.

Say all the bad things you want about Rudy (most deserved), but that sounds like an extremely accurate portrayal of his performance as mayor.

Nobody who remembers NYC in the 80's and early 90's can honestly disagree.

If our country was the foul, lawless mess that city was back then, we might need Rudy to be president. But it isn't.

[dead]

If you're going to coyly allude to "not being perfect" in the first place: why not just come right out and be specific?

Can you point me to some successful political ads that discussed all the screw ups and scandals of the candidate it was supporting?

[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

Rudy’s “mob ties” — you mean when he took them all down and they wanted to assassinate him?

Giuliani Truth File

Kerik

JimRob has taken not-inconsiderable pains to make all of this information readily available, to any and all FReepers curious enough to look. My suggestion would be to start there... but: your call, certainly.

[Liz]

Rooyy is like a wad of discarded gum stuck to your shoe that you can’t scrape off.

[italianquaker]

Thats like saying Fred Thompson has “drug ties” because of his convicted drug dealer friend

[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

Can you point me to some successful political ads that discussed all the screw ups and scandals of the candidate it was supporting?

None spring immediately to mind, no... but, then: that's precisely my point. ;) He's taking what is, by any yardstick, a highly UNconventional approach to begin with, in confessing (however obliquely) his incredibly flawed nature as a potential presidential aspirant.

The fact that it's only a halfway measure, quite frankly, strikes me as being the very worst of all possible worlds: "I have some genuinely unsavory skeletons in my past... but: they're not the sorts of things we really ought to be discussing candidly, out in the bright light of day." ;) If it turns out that I'm wrong on this one... well, then: I'm wrong. We'll certainly see soon enough, won't we...?

[freekitty]

So, he thinks this will help him? Good luck Mr. Rino and apologies to those that favor Rudy. Noting personal here.

[LIConFem]

"...He will be portrayed as a corrupt Mafia stooge and the Clintons will not have to worry about their shady past..."

I'm no Giuliani fan, but trying to cast him as a mafia stooge would be a fool's errand. In fact, I find it amazing that he survived the '80s without at least one major attempt on his life.

[Our man in washington]

The ad was interesting in that Rudy did the entire voice-over. It sounded as if Rudy walked in to the studio and said “let me make my case.” It didn’t sound that polished, but it was nice to see a candidate not hide behind a slick announcer. Instead, Rudy explained why he thought he could be a good president.

[LIConFem]

You beat me to it (see #17).

[kevkrom]

they're going to find somebody who has dealt with crisis almost on a regular basis

Most of which was self-inflicted.