Marine Drill Instructor Convicted Of Abuse(Sgt. Jerrod Glass)

LA Times ^ | Nov 15, 2007 | Tony Perry

[Dick Vomer]

Yes, because when the Marines will be facing angry islamists, Taliban, N. Koreans, Chinese or any other enemy - they won’t be abused, will they?

puhleeze..... I've done the deed and walked the walk sister. There is a difference between abuse and training. I've been abused and I've been trained..... hard.

For a DI to be so out of line that other DI's can't cover for his "act", speaks volumes for what he did that we know about.

You may be correct in that some people need to get their butts stomped on to straighten themselves out, but it's all subjective. I remember getting my jump badge pounded in my chest...... big frickin deal. But some other Marine idiot video taped the whole thing when he got pounded in and the public made it out to be some blood letting slaughterhouse.

It's all subjective. Nobody is going to make the Marines a bunch of pansies by keeping a DI from using a tent pole to beat a boot on the head cause he forgot his locker combination.

Oh yeah. and a big FYI for you.... Marines have already faced Islamist,Taliban, N. Koreans and Chinese.... we kicked their asses...... every time, all the time.

I'm not worried in the least about the fighting ability and discipline of our current Corps. I'd do it all again if I was 30 years younger.

[freema]

There’s no tellin’. But I’d love to hear the DI’s side of this story.

[Manic_Episode]

I JUST DIED A LITTLE INSIDE, YOU MAGGOT!

[Spacetrucker]

OMG - the downward drumbeat continues...Why don’t they just throw in the towel and make our recruits take needle-point and sexual-orientation sensitivity class?? What a bunch of freakin’ p***ies.

[Long Island Pete]

Didnt see that anywhere in the article.

[GaryLee1990]

Of course the LA Times would report on this with glee I might add. Your going to always have a couple bad eggs in a bunch.

WatchingHillary.com

[Loud Mime]

When I was in basic I saw a DI continually abuse one troop. The DI was maybe 5 ft tall; the troop was well over 6 ft 6.

The abuse got so bad that every member of his unit wrote their parents and their congressman about it.

The DI was removed. The other DI’s didn’t lift a finger...that’s what got me.

[Loud Mime]

I once posted that I’m not a good shot....anything beyond 100 meters calls for artillery.

Someone answered: “You rang?”

[Loud Mime]

Just what did the Sergeant do?

The local news here said that he stuffed one ‘cruit into a trashcan...didn’t say if it was a foul one.

[RDTF]

update:

Los Angeles Times
November 16, 2007

Ex-Drill Instructor Gets Six Months

The Marine sergeant was convicted of abusing recruits at boot camp. A military jury rules that his rank should be reduced and that he should get a bad-conduct discharge.

By Tony Perry, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer

SAN DIEGO — A former Marine drill instructor was sentenced by a military jury Thursday to six months in the brig and a bad-conduct discharge for abusing Marine recruits.

The sentence also reduced Sgt. Jerrold Glass’ rank to private.

Glass, who was convicted Wednesday of eight counts related to the abuse of two dozen recruits, could have received 9 1/2 years in prison and a dishonorable discharge.

[ArrogantBustard]

The kinds of people who would like to undermine the military are not the kinds brave enough to sign up.

Scott Thomas Beauchamp?

[af_vet_rr]

Okay, I didn’t factor in stupidity.

[Future Snake Eater]

This isn’t POW training, it’s training young civilians how to be war-fighters. If they need to be trained on POW actions, then they can be sent to SERE school. There is very much a line that can be crossed physically. As far as your examples of mentally crossing the line, maybe those were good examples on TV shows of the 1950s, but there is quite a bit more intensity than that in the real thing. Hell, Marines are famous for it. Drill Sergeants and Drill Instructors are supposed to be consummate professionals, and they should know when they’re about to cross the line.

[oh8eleven]

I graduated from PI in Dec '66 and what our DIs did to us as a platoon was unbelievable, but NOT unexpected. However, when some boots repeatedly screwed up, they paid for it ... big time.
Despite the "harsh" PI training, then weeks of advanced infantry training, followed by more pre-VN "combat training" - it was NOTHING compared to being in VN and in combat.
So, would getting whacked in the head with a tent pole be considered abuse back then? Only if it required two or more recruits to extract it from the other recruit's head.

[Dick Vomer]

So, would getting whacked in the head with a tent pole be considered abuse back then? Only if it required two or more recruits to extract it from the other recruit's head.

I understand what you're saying. My point is that we know some stuff happens, always has, always will. But if this guy was so out of line that nobody could cover for him, then it's the stuff we don't know about that makes me wonder.

As a "Hollywood" Marine boot we had some adjustment to our "brain housing group" in order to pay "attention to detail" also. You are correct that no matter how much training you do it's all easy street compared when the first couple of rounds go "pssfffttt" by your noggin or a friend gets dinged.

I don't know about you but you have to admit, to be 30-40 years younger, full of piss and vinegar ready to eat meat and invincible.... I do miss it sometimes. ...... all except cold weather training....THAT SUCKED. I hated and still hate cold weather. I'd take a good beat down, cause it stops when it stops, but you are always cold and it NEVER stops..hahahahahaha

[USMCPOP]

[Doc91678]

Don’t sound bad to me. Just hope he GI’d the can with a toothbrush after he got out of the trashcan.
Sometimes it takes a little persuasion to get recruits to do the right thing.
And, the bleeding hearts that cry about Gitmo have never been through basic training of any sort. Getting whuped upside the head used to be par for the course amongst other little goodies like that.
Giving the DI twenty and then another twenty was nothing.
What the Lib’s want is a bunch of girlie-boys just like them to fight their wars. With pillows?

[oh8eleven]

I do miss it sometimes.
I miss it most of the time, but then again, we usually remember the good rather than the bad.
I'm the big six oh now, but could still pass the PFT and qualify on the range. I'd go back in a heartbeat if I could. Semper Fi ...

[Iron Munro]

"sadistic power mongers", "sadistic DI's"

Wow! Who knew?

As recruits we thought it was just rigorous training and an attempt to teach us to handle mental and physical pressure under duress.

The truth is that if you can't handle Marine Corps boot camp you probably can't handle an enemy much more ferocious than Joy Behar.

On the other hand, if we had access to some new-millinia type lawyers and judges we could have been millionaires at a young age.

"sadistic power mongers", "sadistic DI's"

Wow! Who knew?

As recruits we thought it was just rigorous training and an attempt to teach us to handle mental and physical pressure under duress.

The truth is that if you can't handle Marine Corps boot camp you probably can't handle an enemy much more ferocious than Joy Behar.

On the other hand, if we had access to some new-millinia type lawyers and judges we could have been millionaires at a young age.

[ArrogantBustard]

Well, stupidity is always a factor ... but I’m not clear on whether that guy was stupid or malicious ... or both.