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To: muawiyah

Because the mathematics of abiogenesis never work. Thus we’ll never see the suggestion that there are multple starting life forms when no one can prove the first one could even come into existence.

You cannot spontanously create the simpliest life form presently known to man without completely defying the laws of probability. This is why many evolutionists will state that there were many, many intermediate lifeforms that evolved between the first life form that came into existance and the single celled amoeba we find today. Those lifeforms are either extinct, or as of yet, undetected.

Continuing, these life forms were much simplier and gained complexity and functions over many successive generations until they become like the single celled amoeba we find today. It really comes down to this, God did it, or space aliens. And if you want to go with space aliens, where did they come from originally?


49 posted on 11/14/2007 5:20:45 PM PST by Diplomat
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To: Diplomat

Evolution in reality has nothing to do with probability. That is a speculation by mechanicists and other Paracelsians.


53 posted on 11/14/2007 5:24:43 PM PST by RightWhale (anti-razors are pro-life)
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To: Diplomat
Sure you can ~ first, you create a chamber with 50 atmospheres pressure. Introduce some distilled water. It'll collapse into a crystalline form that looks just like the double-helix of DNA.

Now that we know that this chemical structure simply pops out of the very structure of the universe (like any other crystal), all we have to do is toss in some contaminants, and we can start building DNA.

Sufficient number of contaminants, and sufficient amount of water, given the pressure, I don't think the probabilities are as meaningful as they once were.

Currently we live in a universe that seems almost made for our existence. Could be that the most ancient original lifeforms created it for that purpose. And maybe not. But the hardest part of the task can apparently be done quite easily.

54 posted on 11/14/2007 5:27:38 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Diplomat
You cannot spontanously create the simpliest life form presently known to man without completely defying the laws of probability.


"Probability" ?  No one knows the numbers involved in the equation that determines the probability of abiogenisis.

You don't.  I don't.  No one has the slighest idea, at all, what the numbers are behind the chances of it happening.  The human mind isn't actually physically capable of comprehending the numbers involved in the equation.

So, why don't you inform us all how you arrived at the conclusion that abiogenisis completely defies the laws of probability.  Considering that it's currently impossible to figure it out, I'm interested in how you did it.

114 posted on 11/14/2007 9:02:22 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Islam: Imagine a clown car......with guns.)
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