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Surfer dude stuns physicists with theory of everything
Telegraph.co.uk ^ | 14 Nov 2007 | Roger Highfield

Posted on 11/14/2007 11:33:43 AM PST by snarks_when_bored

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Astronomers Deal Blow To Quantum Theories Of Time, Space, Gravity
Space Daily | Huntsville - Mar 28, 2003 | Editorial Staff
Posted on 03/28/2003 8:49:29 PM EST by vannrox
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Supersymmetry and Parallel Dimensions
[profile of Harvard physicist Lisa Randall]
The Harvard Crimson | January 6, 2006 | Adrian J. Smith
Posted on 01/12/2006 2:54:38 PM EST by snarks_when_bored
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The Many Directions of Time
http://www.stanford.edu/ | 1 February 2006 | Alexander Franklin Mayer
Posted on 02/05/2006 4:48:11 PM EST by ckilmer
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[snip] The novel idea that there are an infinite number of time dimensions in the Universe revolutionizes gravitational theory and much of modern science with it. A number of outstanding scientific mysteries are definitively solved, including observations that lead to the concepts of ‘dark energy’ and ‘dark matter’. You will know what these are after you read the lectures. [end]

String Theory’s Extra Dimensions Must Be
Less Than Half the Width of a Human Hair
Scientific American | January 16, 2007 | JR Minkel
Posted on 01/17/2007 1:06:00 AM EST by SunkenCiv
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201 posted on 11/15/2007 12:21:48 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Thursday, November 8, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

Fascinating, thanks! I sure hope he’s nailed it. We’ve been badly in need of another Einstein lately and, frankly, all this talk of dark matter and dark energy and an infinite number of universes, etc., has been scaring the crap out of me. I want the universe to make sense again!


202 posted on 11/15/2007 12:37:46 AM PST by LibWhacker (Democrats are phony Americans)
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To: madvlad

assuming an underlying economic motive in anything is a pretty good policy, seems pretty obvious, but otoh few if any here are qualified to actually critique his theory, so discussion options are limited...

but comments about his employment status and ability) did seem irrelevant as to his ability to work with the subject matter in question.


203 posted on 11/15/2007 12:48:22 AM PST by WoofDog123
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To: Aquinasfan

The young scientist says “Look at how wonderful I am for discovering this!” The wise scientist says “Look how wonderful God is; look at what He has done!”


204 posted on 11/15/2007 3:35:12 AM PST by RightOnline
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To: Greg F

“The E8 looks like a potholder.”

The fabric of the universe.


205 posted on 11/15/2007 3:54:48 AM PST by esquirette (Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there.)
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To: tamu

“This the guy?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Michael_Langan";

Yes...!!

thanks a bunch for that link FRiend.


206 posted on 11/15/2007 4:27:59 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: BOBTHENAILER

I think NASA wanted his formula for “lift-off”. That stuff would curl your toes for you, with or without your shoes on!


207 posted on 11/15/2007 4:38:27 AM PST by geezerwheezer (get up boys, we're burnin' daylight!!!)
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To: esquirette

“The E8 looks like a potholder.”

“The fabric of the universe.”

Dacron?


208 posted on 11/15/2007 5:14:19 AM PST by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: Alamo-Girl; xzins
We exist in a universe described by mathematics. But which math? Although it is interesting to consider that the universe may be the physical instantiation of all mathematics, there is a classic principle for restricting the possibilities: The mathematics of the universe should be beautiful. A successful description of nature should be a concise, elegant, unified mathematical structure consistent with experience.

That's the opening paragraph. The mathematics should be "beautiful!" I'm sure Dirac and Einstein would agree.

I'm looking forward to reading "surfer dude's" paper as soon as I print it out.

Thanks again xzins for pinging us to this.

209 posted on 11/15/2007 6:09:37 AM PST by betty boop (Simplicity is the highest form of sophistication. -- Leonardo da Vinci)
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To: betty boop

Beautiful is the word used!

Isn’t that wonderful??!!

It’s not ID, it’s not creationist, nor, however, does “beauty” contradict anything believers hold dear. In fact, we would resoundingly agree.


210 posted on 11/15/2007 6:22:26 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain. True Supporters of the Troops will pray for US to Win!)
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To: xzins; Alamo-Girl
Beautiful is the word used! Isn’t that wonderful??!!

I certainly think so, dear xzins! It find it marvelous that certain thinkers have regarded beauty as a clue in their research; e.g., Dirac, Einstein. And now, Lisi.

And why shouldn't they? God works in beauty, truth, justice, and love. I believe these are at the foundation of the world.

We'll have to see what happens with his line of inquiry here....

211 posted on 11/15/2007 6:56:41 AM PST by betty boop (Simplicity is the highest form of sophistication. -- Leonardo da Vinci)
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To: RightOnline

The Ricky Bobby scientist says “Look how wonderful the Baby Jesus is ! Look what he has made, using only his tiny angel baby hands and the tiny baby jesus magic in his angel wings !”


212 posted on 11/15/2007 7:29:05 AM PST by Eddeche
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To: LibWhacker
Of course truth is stranger than fiction. Fiction has to make sense. -- Mark Twain

213 posted on 11/15/2007 8:00:47 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Thursday, November 8, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: betty boop; xzins
I certainly think so, dear xzins! It find it marvelous that certain thinkers have regarded beauty as a clue in their research; e.g., Dirac, Einstein. And now, Lisi.

And why shouldn't they? God works in beauty, truth, justice, and love. I believe these are at the foundation of the world.

Amen!

The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork. Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge. [There is] no speech nor language, [where] their voice is not heard. – Psalms 19:1-3

Praise God!!!

214 posted on 11/15/2007 10:00:46 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Eddeche

I’m rolling on the floor.....kinda.


215 posted on 11/15/2007 5:00:05 PM PST by RightOnline
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To: Alamo-Girl; betty boop

If you were to ponder the question, “In terms of geometry, what would be the definition of ‘beauty.’ where would it lead you?

And would it be possible that the search for ‘beauty-so-defined’ might then be a rosetta stone for prediction?


216 posted on 11/16/2007 6:14:32 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain. True Supporters of the Troops will pray for US to Win!)
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To: xzins; Alamo-Girl
And would it be possible that the search for ‘beauty-so-defined’ might then be a rosetta stone for prediction?

Actually I think's that's what led Lisi, and is what he had in mind with this geometry he's presented. Now we have to see how well his proposal holds up.

217 posted on 11/16/2007 6:43:14 AM PST by betty boop (Simplicity is the highest form of sophistication. -- Leonardo da Vinci)
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To: xzins; betty boop
Thank you both so much for your posts!

As the old adage goes, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

But I suspect Lisi meant the same thing Einstein meant when he used the world "elegant."

The greatest Truths man can receive are stunning in their simplicity and power.

Christians know this personally and spiritually. And many see it also in physics and math.

Such was Einstein's E=MC2. And so might be Lisi's E8.

Another seeking that "lofty structure" as Einstein called it, is Stephen Wolfram who in "A New Kind of Science" sees the beauty or elegance in cellular automata.

Also perceiving mathematical elegance in the physical realm was Eugene Wigner who coined the term the "unreasonable effectiveness of math." And I suspect Lisa Randall and Cumrun Vafa and Roger Penrose would agree.

Whether physics or math or both, these seekers - as well as our own betty boop with whom I strongly agree - sense an elegant algorithm at the inception which gives rise to the geometry and energy/matter - and apparent complexity - of this present, physical Creation.

218 posted on 11/16/2007 8:01:38 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE; SoothingDave

-so the surfer dude gets it?


219 posted on 11/16/2007 8:06:14 AM PST by tioga (Snow Flurries in New York.)
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To: snarks_when_bored

That E8 pattern looks like graduate level Spirograph™ work to me.


220 posted on 11/16/2007 8:10:29 AM PST by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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