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To: Aristotelian
I confess to being perplexed by the vehemence of Bush hatred. Part of it is due to an attitude of intellectual superiority: Bush isn’t smart enough to be president (despite his Ivy League degrees). It then goes to the 2000 election — e.g., dimpled chads, the SCOTUS ruling, the fact that Gore got more votes than Bush — and the notion that the election was stolen. (The one election that I know of that was stolen in U.S. presidential history was 1960, when JFK stole the election by fraud in Illinois — and also probably Texas — from Nixon.)

It’s not ideological, because Bush, unlike Reagan, is not noted for his “vision.” Nor is it corruption. This administration hasn’t been hit with a raft of subpoenas or trials as was the Clinton administration.

Perhaps the hatred is a reflection of frustration — frustration by the libs that their message isn’t very attractive to voters.

2 posted on 11/14/2007 2:22:47 AM PST by Aristotelian
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To: Aristotelian
We saw this before when the Gipper was in the WH. Your comment on unattractive message is probably correct, tho.
Recall when new Republican Norm Coleman and hard lefty Skip Humphrey were beaten by political unknown Jesse Ventura in the MN governor's race some years back. Skip asked the open question, "maybe our message wasn't getting through ?" Skip finished a vary distant third in the race, something like 200,00 votes behind Coleman. Skip's message was getting through alright...
4 posted on 11/14/2007 2:31:59 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Go Hawks !)
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To: Aristotelian

I don’t hate Bush. I just think he’s the worst “repbulican/conservative” president we’ve had in my lifetime.


5 posted on 11/14/2007 2:35:43 AM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: Aristotelian
e.g., dimpled chads, the SCOTUS ruling, the fact that Gore got more votes than Bush — and the notion that the election was stolen.

And, this is undeniable proof that anyone believing this tripe is suffering from BDS. The reason is simple and is as old as the Republic itself. This notion that the 2000 election was "stolen" from Owlgore proves that they are not remotely intellectual at all, but rather morons who have neither read, nor understand the United States Constitution. Presidents are not elected by popular vote in this country. Anyone in the Democrat Party who thinks the 2000 election was "stolen" from Owlgore should read Article 2, Sections 1-4.

10 posted on 11/14/2007 3:14:07 AM PST by Thermalseeker (Thinking of voting Democrat? Wake up and smell the Socialism!)
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To: Aristotelian

“(The one election that I know of that was stolen in U.S. presidential history was 1960, when JFK stole the election by fraud in Illinois — and also probably Texas — from Nixon.)”

Yes, and it was my first presidential vote. For Nixon, naturally.


27 posted on 11/14/2007 4:01:27 AM PST by billhilly (I was republican when republican wasn't cool. (With an apology to Barbara Mandrell.))
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To: Aristotelian
The one election that I know of that was stolen in U.S. presidential history was 1960, when JFK stole the election by fraud in Illinois — and also probably Texas — from Nixon

Kennedy didn't steal the election. He would up with 303 electoral votes. If Nixon had won in Illinois then Kennedy would still have had 276 electoral votes to Nixon's 246, more than enough to win. And Kennedy won Texas by 55,000 votes and 2 percentage points.

34 posted on 11/14/2007 4:16:58 AM PST by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: Aristotelian
Perhaps the hatred is a reflection of frustration — frustration by the libs that their message isn’t very attractive to voters.

No, it is a tactic fomented and support by the Progressives to do exactly as Berkowitz says - blind one to the arguments of conservatives. It is hate substituted for thought.

38 posted on 11/14/2007 4:31:33 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done, needs to be done by the government.)
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To: Aristotelian
Their blind hatred of Bush has and continues to place "the Republic" at great risk.

To be sure, GW has not thrilled me on many fronts, but he is the CINC and we are at war with an ideology that will burn the leftists haters first should they win.

It really is a disgusting anathema.

40 posted on 11/14/2007 4:32:29 AM PST by ImpBill ("America ... Where are you now?" --Greg Adams--Brownsville, TX --On the other Front Line)
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To: Aristotelian

“Perhaps the hatred is a reflection of frustration — frustration by the libs that their message isn’t very attractive to voters.”

Oh, but it is. The 2000 election saw half of the voters cast their ballot for Gore, because he promised to steal from the other half for them. Don’t discount the lure of kleptomania.


52 posted on 11/14/2007 4:56:02 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: Aristotelian
“(The one election that I know of that was stolen in U.S. presidential history was 1960, when JFK stole the election by fraud in Illinois — and also probably Texas — from Nixon.)”

Democrats told me (well before 2000) that JFK stole the 1960 election. They were not ashamed, much less outraged. For that reason, the “outrage” over the 2000 election, the readiness for outrage in 2004, and even the Diebold scare in a midterm election, always struck me as inconsistent and somewhat phony. I think a new generation of Democrats thought they were entitled to steal an election in 2000, just as they believed their fathers had in 1960.

56 posted on 11/14/2007 5:02:46 AM PST by ChessExpert (Reagan dismantled the Russian empire of 21 conquered nations)
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To: Aristotelian

Liberals hate GWB because he goes to church.


90 posted on 11/14/2007 6:24:28 AM PST by pbear8 (Padre Pio please pray for Tony Snow)
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To: Aristotelian
Perhaps the hatred is a reflection of frustration — frustration by the libs that their message isn’t very attractive to voters.

But also because the libs don't have the opportunity to implement what they know is best for the voters.

93 posted on 11/14/2007 6:36:59 AM PST by HoosierHawk
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To: Aristotelian
Perhaps the hatred is a reflection of frustration — frustration by the libs that their message isn’t very attractive to voters.

Yep - and they feel abandoned. Abandonment reactions can be really dangerous.

95 posted on 11/14/2007 6:56:45 AM PST by Red Boots
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To: Aristotelian

It’s rooted in how Bush talks, his speaking style infers he is dumb, ergo the foundation of BDS. Happens to a lot of southerners. Nothing could be farther from the truth, he beats the donks like a drum — WHICH JUST DRIVES THEM TOTALLY NUTS.


100 posted on 11/14/2007 8:23:45 AM PST by Tarpon
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If President Bush is “so stupid, “ what does that make Bush-haters? (Hint: really, REALLY, REALLY stupid....)

He beat them in two presidential elections, and has run circles around the Dimwit-led congress. And now we’re winning in Iraq.

Now the Bush-haters are REALLY mad. LOL


129 posted on 11/14/2007 11:40:07 AM PST by RooRoobird20
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To: Aristotelian

It’s a projection of their hatred for US, and the frustration they feel that they aren’t getting their way so much any more. Also that they’re getting old.


130 posted on 11/14/2007 11:41:56 AM PST by ichabod1 ("Self defense is not only our right, it is our duty." President Ronald Reagan)
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