Was this the raid card?
If this story was about a homeowner killing "oh lets say" three officers
for killing a dog, would you support the end result of the story?
There are stupid people in every profession. Including dog catchers.
Shame on anyone trying to justify any death of an Officer of the law over a Dog.
And yes, I hold an extremly high respect for the lives of Law enforcement!
Any more questions about where I stand on the issue of Man-VS-Dog?
Maybe you would like to know how many stray dogs I put down for chasing cattle..
Here’s the problem as I imagine it:
1) Cop is in Man’s yard without cause;
2) Man’s dog in Man’s yard;
3) Cop shoots Man’s Dog;
4) Because Man lives in Texas, Man owns gun;
5) Man hears Cop shoot Man’s Dog in Man’s Yard;
6) Man grabs gun;
7) Because Cop shot Man’s Dog at night, Man sees only man standing in his yard with a gun;
8) Man shoots Cop he has perceived as an intruder;
9) Texas castle-doctrine (thank you Leg. 2007) justifies Man’s shooting by law;
10) Other Cops then shoot Man.
11) Disaster has happened because Cop was where he wasn’t supposed to be.
There are other scenarios, like where Man has kids that are hit in the crossfire, or Man’s neighbor gets hit by a stray. But in the end, you wind up with a lot of dead people based on someone being not where he was supposed to be...
If a cop does something without legal justification, I see no reason the cop should be treated any better than a non-cop who performed a similar action.
My preference would be that cops follow the law. If a few cops have to get shot in order that the rest of them will follow the law, I'd consider that a better situation than having cops that are free to break the law with impunity.
If there are people of any sort, lets say 25 of them, and they are in someone’s back yard at night....and they should not be there....and they start shooting. I don’t care if it is a dog or a shadow. The right number for the homeowner to shoot is 25 where I live. Every last one. And go get them the next day if you miss. If they should not be there the right thing for them to do is get their A$$ chewed, lick their wounds and go home. What commie planet do you come from?
If it’s a TRESPASSER, it SHOULD be shot dead. Period.
The difference between a cop and a criminal has come down to nothing more than a badge. Often the criminals show MORE humanity.
Pity, because I remember when the cops really were our friends.
Sometimes it is. The principle is contained in the Texas Penal Code, § 9.31.(c).
(c) The use of force to resist an arrest or search is justified: (1) if, before the actor offers any resistance, the peace officer (or person acting at his direction) uses or attempts to use greater force than necessary to make the arrest or search; and (2) when and to the degree the actor reasonably believes the force is immediately necessary to protect himself against the peace officer's (or other person's) use or attempted use of greater force than necessary. (d) The use of deadly force is not justified under this subchapter except as provided in Sections 9.32, 9.33, and 9.34.
Those sections provide the justification for use of deadly force in protection of life and health, or those of a third party.
If this story was about a homeowner killing "oh lets say" three officers for killing a dog, would you support the end result of the story?
While it would take some pretty extraordinary circumstances to be justifiable, if the police were not clearly identifiable, such as at night, or when not in uniform, it would be possible. Suppose the owner shot the first officer when the officer shot his dog, again when the homeowner could not reasonably have known he was shooting at an officer, then the other two officers came to the defense of the first, and were still not clearly identifiable.
There are stupid people in every profession. Including dog catchers.
Shame on anyone trying to justify any death of an Officer of the law over a Dog.
Sorry, the statute law in my state makes such justifications, provided that the circumstances are such that the first officer is not identifiable, or if he turns his gun on the homeowner, when the homeowner appears in defense of his dog.
Bottom line, it's not smart to go onto private property and shoot peoples' dogs or other livestock. Police officer or not.
On your property I'm sure. No problem with that. But don't try it on your neighbor's property, without their explicit consent, only to find out they just got a new dog you didn't know about.
“Any more questions about where I stand on the issue of Man-VS-Dog?
Maybe you would like to know how many stray dogs I put down for chasing cattle..”
Seems an invite to cow haters. Anyone who wonders through your back 40 uninvited, decides they are frightened of cattle and starts shooting them because humans are better than bovines is OK to go? Your fault for having them! Maybe you want to kill citizens just for eliminating terrifying cows? For shame!
Only the ones that need shootin...
presumably they are on your land. If so than thats perfectly acceptable. or do you just drive around and shoot herding dogs when you see them? perhaps your name should be MadMax, not MaxMax.
“So shooting Police Officers is OK?”
How in the hell did you come to that conclusion? You should take a course in Reason 101. Do you know what a non-sequitur is? You just committed one.