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Troopers Shoot, Kill Fenced-In Dog Serving Warrant Next Door
NBC-10 ^ | 11/13/2007

Posted on 11/13/2007 6:20:23 PM PST by Malacoda

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To: Alright_on_the_LeftCoast
“To Protect and Serve” - gestapo criminal aholes....

The mafia "protects" people. A bull "serves" a cow.

61 posted on 11/13/2007 8:02:57 PM PST by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: MaxMax

Here’s the problem as I imagine it:

1) Cop is in Man’s yard without cause;
2) Man’s dog in Man’s yard;
3) Cop shoots Man’s Dog;
4) Because Man lives in Texas, Man owns gun;
5) Man hears Cop shoot Man’s Dog in Man’s Yard;
6) Man grabs gun;
7) Because Cop shot Man’s Dog at night, Man sees only man standing in his yard with a gun;
8) Man shoots Cop he has perceived as an intruder;
9) Texas castle-doctrine (thank you Leg. 2007) justifies Man’s shooting by law;
10) Other Cops then shoot Man.
11) Disaster has happened because Cop was where he wasn’t supposed to be.

There are other scenarios, like where Man has kids that are hit in the crossfire, or Man’s neighbor gets hit by a stray. But in the end, you wind up with a lot of dead people based on someone being not where he was supposed to be...


62 posted on 11/13/2007 8:03:23 PM PST by Grn_Lantern (Let's go to work....)
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To: Ramius
Actually, it very rarely happens. That's why its news. Other freepers' desire to kill cops notwithstanding.

Is there any reason that cops who enter people's property without legal justification and then harm those people or their property should not be prosecuted the same as any other trespasser, assailant, or vandal?

63 posted on 11/13/2007 8:04:54 PM PST by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: supercat

Nope. And that’s not what this thread is about.

But you knew that.


64 posted on 11/13/2007 8:08:04 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: MaxMax
If this story was about a homeowner killing "oh lets say" three officers for killing a dog, would you support the end result of the story?

If a cop does something without legal justification, I see no reason the cop should be treated any better than a non-cop who performed a similar action.

My preference would be that cops follow the law. If a few cops have to get shot in order that the rest of them will follow the law, I'd consider that a better situation than having cops that are free to break the law with impunity.

65 posted on 11/13/2007 8:11:45 PM PST by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: MaxMax

If there are people of any sort, lets say 25 of them, and they are in someone’s back yard at night....and they should not be there....and they start shooting. I don’t care if it is a dog or a shadow. The right number for the homeowner to shoot is 25 where I live. Every last one. And go get them the next day if you miss. If they should not be there the right thing for them to do is get their A$$ chewed, lick their wounds and go home. What commie planet do you come from?


66 posted on 11/13/2007 8:12:45 PM PST by MtnClimber (http://www.fred08.com/)
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To: Ronin

Has this been going on all along and I am just now paying attention?

Tazers. Shooting every dog in sight.

What is wrong with law enforcment.


67 posted on 11/13/2007 8:14:32 PM PST by Chickensoup (If it is not permitted, it is prohibited. Only the government can permit....)
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To: Ramius
Nope. And that’s not what this thread is about. But you knew that.

No matter how commonly or rarely events happen, I would consider it unacceptable for cops to escape punishment on even 10% of them. Would you agree with that premise?

If that premise is acceptable, then it would seem that either (1) incidents where cops are punished outnumber at least 10 to 1 those that are reported where they do not, in which case the rate of such events would seem unacceptably high, or (2) an unacceptable number of cops are escaping punishment for well-known criminal actions on their part.

Since it would seem more likely that cops would escape punishment for events which don't become widely known than for those that do, the apparent very low rate of punishment for well-known events suggests an even lower rate of punishment for such events overall. Is there any reason not consider that totally unacceptable?

68 posted on 11/13/2007 8:17:49 PM PST by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: DCBryan1

There guns? Suprise? uh huh


69 posted on 11/13/2007 8:21:09 PM PST by ValerieTexas
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To: Ramius
Actually, it very rarely happens.

It's seems fairly common in Tennessee. There have been quite a few reports about trigger happy badge-bunnys gunning down innocent pets without reason.

Other freepers' desire to kill cops notwithstanding.

I don't think it's a desire to kill a cop so much as it's a desire to defend oneself and one's pets from unstable individuals with guns and a severe lack of self control. An all too common combination in these troubled times.
70 posted on 11/13/2007 8:21:26 PM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (Mohammedanism - Bringing you only the best of the 6th century for fourteen hundred years.)
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To: blackdog

I’m guessing the clue you provided? or maybe UPS guy has dog biscuits?


71 posted on 11/13/2007 8:22:43 PM PST by GOPPachyderm
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To: MtnClimber
Since when does an evil human outrank a good dog? What the hell do the PO PO’s do when their police dogs get shot by a crook?

Excellent point. Imagine what would happen to someone that shot a police dog on their own property, where the dog shouldn't have been in the first place, because it was seen to be threatening them or nipped them.

72 posted on 11/13/2007 8:23:50 PM PST by Northern Alliance
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To: Malacoda

What pisses me off and always has is that police recognize how vicious the teeth of a dog are, and condemn measures of suspects to affirmatively defend themselves, and do so with with oppressive penalties.

Yet, policeman routinely kill innocent pets with the defense, “I was just defending myself.”


73 posted on 11/13/2007 8:33:28 PM PST by no nau
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To: Malacoda

What you want to bet they don’t even offer to pay for the dog?
Unless they get sued, and then the chances, while improved, are probably still not high.


74 posted on 11/13/2007 8:34:35 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Brilliant
So? It’s just a dog. We have bigger problems.

Yeah, just a dog. For some people, people with hearts and souls, their dog means the same to them as their children

So, by your reasoning, it would have been just as okay, if it had been a small child in the yard

75 posted on 11/13/2007 8:37:21 PM PST by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: MaxMax

If it’s a TRESPASSER, it SHOULD be shot dead. Period.

The difference between a cop and a criminal has come down to nothing more than a badge. Often the criminals show MORE humanity.

Pity, because I remember when the cops really were our friends.


76 posted on 11/13/2007 8:39:12 PM PST by Don W (I wondered why the baseball was getting bigger. Then it hit me.)
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To: Mears

Remember it was law that planted its flag after conquering Waco etc.

I’m all for law and order but there are elements of law enforcement that need to be restrained posthaste.


77 posted on 11/13/2007 8:41:32 PM PST by festus (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: El Gato
What you want to bet they don’t even offer to pay for the dog?

Oops, missed the line at the end that says they already have. Not that it will help.

78 posted on 11/13/2007 8:42:00 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: BOBTHENAILER

The Inquirer ran a headline a few years ago: “Girl, 10 Shot After Snowball Fight Leaves Hospital.” The story concerned a girl who had been shot after a snowball fight, and was subsequently hospitalized. After being there awhile, she left, and the story talked about her leaving the hospital.

The headline, however, implies that a snowball fight left the hospital, and then after that the girl and either nine or 10 other people were shot.


79 posted on 11/13/2007 8:43:17 PM PST by rudy45
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To: BOBTHENAILER

No kidding...that headline is confusing. I read it three times, and I still wasn’t sure what the story was.

Looked to me like a warrant was serving dogs while being fenced in.


80 posted on 11/13/2007 8:44:12 PM PST by B Knotts (Tancredo '08!)
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