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To: Hillary4Penetentiary
What will put Hillary in the Presidency is Republicans who do not find their perfect candidate in the nominee and either stay home from the polls or worse yet vote for Hillary to send a "message". No Republican candidate regardless of how liberal, pro choice, conservative, anti-gun etc. would be worse than Hillary as President no matter what.

While four years of Hillary or God forbid eight, will probably turn the country against liberalism, the damage to the US will be horrendous. With the Dems in Congress and Hillary in the White House the economy will take the biggest dive since the Great Depression. Taxes ranging from income tax, gasoline tax, carbon tax, cigarette taxes etc. will bleed the country while the Dems go on an orgy of domestic spending.

Worse yet will be our safety. A hasty retreat in Iraq, Iran getting nuclear weapons, the fall of Pakistan to radical Muslims and Hillary's willingness to appease any dictator or terrorist will mean great danger in the US. The IEDs will be exploding in US streets, not in Baghdad and I would expect at least one 9-11 sized attack witha a "dirty " Bomb.

38 posted on 11/13/2007 3:46:32 PM PST by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: The Great RJ

You nailed it. Thanks for your common sense.

I do diverge from you a bit however in the idea that Hillary would turn the country against liberalism. The Dems. will spend the next 4 or 8 years implementing socialism and creating middle class depedency on the government just like in Europe and the Dems. will manage as a result to create a semi-permanent majority and White House presence. When the GOP does manage to get back into the White House, perhaps 2 decades from now, just like European conservatives we will be unable to touch anything of the middle class welfare programs the Dems. will have created, as it will become another 3rd rail in American politics. Government run health care and other middle class vote buying schemes the Dems. will have dreamed up will have entrenched themselves permanently into American governance and the psyche of the American voters.

The GOP will be left to acting as nothing more than protectors of the welfare state thus created if they ever want to be in power again, the only difference being they’ll slow the creation of more and more socialism rather than being able to roll it back outright. You only need to look to Europe to see how that happens. That is what will move the GOP to the left, not Rudy’s potential election as some conservatives claim. He has never been a proponent of big government programs.

Maybe I’m just too bearish on the country right now, but I no longer believe Americans are against nanny state government any longer. I see more and more our spoiled society demanding government create a risk free, adversity free life. And that starts with healthcare. More and more Americans are becoming convinced that government needs to have a bigger hand in health care. And the first thing Dems. will do when they have total control of the federal government is to create government healthcare and then campaign from there to eternity on protecting it and on the fear campaigns of Republicans rolling it back if they get into power.

In addition to creating a dependency culture, the Democrats will dismantle our homeland security apparatuses, including the Patriot Act and NSA wiretapping and retreat from Iraq which will likely lead to an Al Qaeda and Iranian victory in Iraq, and the loss of the overall war on terror stemming from our capitulation in Iraq. Meanwhile, Al Qaeda and Iran will grow bolder from their victory, sitting atop billions in oil wealth to wreack havoc with in the world while the US retreats within itself to create a European-style dependency culture.

Unfortunately the IEDs going off in our streets (or God forbid a school being taken over by terrorists Bezlan-style) scenario you envision may be the only thing that wakes Americans from their dependency-induced stupor.


65 posted on 11/13/2007 7:13:03 PM PST by Hillary4Penetentiary ("I hope Hillary is elected" Ala Senakreh, West Bank chief of the Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades)
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