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PBS Telling Teachers to Violate First Amendment, Group Says
CNSN News ^ | November 13, 2007 | Randy Hall

Posted on 11/13/2007 1:40:53 PM PST by yoe

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To: antiRepublicrat
Heat is explained by one dominant theory too, but you know my house is still pretty warm.

Sure, then solve the debate in the way science always works. Perform an independently repeatable experiment whose results are consistent with what the theory predicts. You can do that with theories about heat after all.
41 posted on 11/13/2007 2:18:42 PM PST by TalonDJ (Nano-meter = 20008)
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To: allmendream
Albert Einstein also believed that Natural Selection was the theory that best explained Biological evolution, and he was certainly a lot smarter than any of the Science haters at the Dyscovery Institute.

The economic anarchy of capitalist society as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of the evil. We see before us a huge community of producers the members of which are unceasingly striving to deprive each other of the fruits of their collective labor—not by force, but on the whole in faithful compliance with legally established rules. Albert Einstein Why Socialism?

Evidently, "smart" is relative.

42 posted on 11/13/2007 2:20:05 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: allmendream

All the fossil we have found and I still can’t find that darn missing link one for any transitional species type.


43 posted on 11/13/2007 2:23:07 PM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: TalonDJ
A theory in science is the highest rank in the hierarchy of scientific explanation.

Eh? Check again.

Check the definitions on my FR home page. "Theory," "law," and other relevant terms are included.

44 posted on 11/13/2007 2:24:24 PM PST by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

That has got to be one of the most tendentious cartoons I’ve ever seen. It’s worse than a Chick tract.


45 posted on 11/13/2007 2:27:24 PM PST by aruanan
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To: A. Morgan

Yeah, like that Leftist fueled 12 part crap series they had about WWII.


46 posted on 11/13/2007 2:27:43 PM PST by Philly Nomad
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To: gondramB
Luskin may or may not be a hypocrite but the statement does in fact conflict with the SCOTUS doctrine of neutrality. It is not neutral for a state actor to make a declarative statement that evolution is not anti-religious when a large percentage of the American population believes just that.

I don't agree with that proposition but then again I don't agree with SCOTUS either since their "establishment clause" jurisprudence is bascially incoherent.

47 posted on 11/13/2007 2:27:46 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: ari-freedom; Mr. Lucky

Battling between liberal and conservative seems like useful idiot exercises.

To me its authoritarian vs. non-authoritarian. Does a policy limit my options as a citizen? So if yesterday I could own a health insurance policy and today I cannot, my options have been limited.

Socialism limits choices and its authoritarian (they call it progressive), but conservatives often want to limit my options, too. If I’m not hurting anyone, just leave me the hell alone. Ha.


48 posted on 11/13/2007 2:27:55 PM PST by nsmart
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To: massgopguy
“Evolution does not explain Creation.” - Charles Darwin

Gee...I wonder how that little gem got left out of the school books.

49 posted on 11/13/2007 2:30:47 PM PST by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: gondramB
This is absurd. These people are absurd.

Well, yes they're absurd (didn't they refuse to help defend ID in the Dover trial?) but in that particular sentence they have the teensy-weensiest of claims. There are religious people who think evolution can be reconciled with religions and other religious people who disagree. That statement is siding with the former against the latter and so might conceivably put a toe across the SC's neutrality standard.

Better to stick with facts that don't claim truth for one position or another. They might, for example, quote some of the many scientists like Francis Collins who've reconciled evolution with their faith. And then they could quote creationists who say these celebrated scientists just lying to themselves because the Bible must be taken literally.

50 posted on 11/13/2007 2:30:48 PM PST by edsheppa
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To: massgopguy

LOL. It does; lots of them, but none ever quite the same or doing the same thing even right next to each other. I remember mapping in Montana and coming across a wrench faulted formation and I just had to sit and look. I sketched it and marked it on my map, but I spent more time just marveling at that little hidden, beautiful treasure high up on a lonely peak. A mule deer stumbled on me and we both woke out of our respective musings and went in opposite directions.


51 posted on 11/13/2007 2:32:19 PM PST by doodad
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To: yoe

All the lawyers, teachers and others who embrace Darwinism and evolution in their dying moments will see one of God’s creations for themselves. It is hell.


52 posted on 11/13/2007 2:35:07 PM PST by afnamvet
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Albert Einstein believed in a Creator and he is certainly a lot smarter than any of the Christian haters in the ACLU.

Wrong.

"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it."
-Albert Einstein
Source: Helen Dukas and Banesh Hoffman (eds) (1981). Albert Einstein, The Human Side. Princeton University Press, 43.

53 posted on 11/13/2007 2:44:51 PM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: afnamvet
All the lawyers, teachers and others who embrace Darwinism and evolution in their dying moments will see one of God’s creations for themselves. It is hell.

The Pope is going to hell?

54 posted on 11/13/2007 2:45:27 PM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: edsheppa

>>Well, yes they’re absurd (didn’t they refuse to help defend ID in the Dover trial?) but in that particular sentence they have the teensy-weensiest of claims. There are religious people who think evolution can be reconciled with religions and other religious people who disagree. That statement is siding with the former against the latter and so might conceivably put a toe across the SC’s neutrality standard.<<

You have a point - there is a point here.

I’ve been a science teacher and I can tell you that kids are gonna ask questions and teachers need the freedom to answer questions that are not directly in the curriculum.

I promise that kids are gonna ask about religion in science class. I do disagree with the DI - teacher need to be able to say they do not oppose religion and that science does not oppose religion (although it is sometimes hard to tell that listening to some science types)


55 posted on 11/13/2007 2:49:21 PM PST by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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To: Alter Kaker

Anyone you’d ever want to know or spend time with will be in hell. I mean, would you want to spend eternity in the company of the anti-science crowd?


56 posted on 11/13/2007 2:51:21 PM PST by js1138
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To: Resolute Conservative
All the fossil we have found and I still can’t find that darn missing link one for any transitional species type.

Are you kidding me? There have been thousands of transitional species discovered. Maybe you've just been asleep the last 150 years...

Wikipedia, for example, has a short list to get you started.

57 posted on 11/13/2007 2:51:54 PM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: kevinm13
Both PBS and NPR should have their public funding pulled.

They're both strickly liberal media for liberal consumption.

Both media have made it pretty clear that the conservative viewpoint is not welcome.

Taxation without represention ... a possibility...

58 posted on 11/13/2007 2:52:32 PM PST by xtinct (I was the next door neighbor kid's imaginary friend.)
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To: Alter Kaker

“In view of such harmony in the cosmos which I, with my limited human mind, am able to recognize, there are yet people who say there is no God. But what really makes me angry is that they quote me for the support of such views. I believe in Spinoza’s God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with fates and actions of human beings.”~Albert Einstein


59 posted on 11/13/2007 2:54:00 PM PST by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: xtinct
They're both strickly liberal media for liberal consumption.

Both media have made it pretty clear that the conservative viewpoint is not welcome.

So it is your contention that science is liberal, and conservatives shouldn't have anything to do with it?

60 posted on 11/13/2007 2:55:58 PM PST by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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