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PBS Telling Teachers to Violate First Amendment, Group Says
CNSN News ^ | November 13, 2007 | Randy Hall

Posted on 11/13/2007 1:40:53 PM PST by yoe

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To: allmendream
Scientific evidence is not a religious viewpoint.

Unless the subject is "Climate Change"...

21 posted on 11/13/2007 1:53:28 PM PST by Edgerunner (If you won't let the military fight your battles, you will have to. Keep your powder dry...)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

“Evolution does not explain Creation.” - Charles Darwin


22 posted on 11/13/2007 1:56:19 PM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: massgopguy

I see no problem with that statement.


23 posted on 11/13/2007 1:57:40 PM PST by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes)
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To: yoe

Why would anyone expect a left wing organization to care about free speech? They are the ones who eliminate free speech when they get into power.


24 posted on 11/13/2007 1:59:24 PM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: Edgerunner
Except that they lack the evidence that the fluctuation in the earths temperature (it is on the way up) is due to activity by mankind or is statistically significant in scope, duration, or incidence from fluctuations that have occurred in the earths temperature before humans were even around.

What they have is a quasi-religious philosophy that mankind is evil, the earth is good, and that therefore man must be harming the earth. That and the evidence from ground based recordings that the average temperatures have risen over the last few decades.

25 posted on 11/13/2007 1:59:49 PM PST by allmendream (A binary modality is a sure sign you don't understand the problem. (Hunter 08))
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

I actually am a geologist. And I went into it because the wonder of the earth and its formation are truly a marvel to see. The things that the average person glosses over as “pretty” or just interesting are beautiful and awe inspiring to me. I have no problem with reconciling God creating it and the evidence before me of how long it took.


26 posted on 11/13/2007 2:00:02 PM PST by doodad
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To: ari-freedom

Well, exactly true.

The worst thing we can do, and they have us jumping through hoops like trained dogs these days, is divide and take out after each other.

Who benefits when useful idiots tear holes in one another?

Dang and we are sooo falling for it!


27 posted on 11/13/2007 2:02:28 PM PST by nsmart
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To: doodad

It takes a lot of stones to say that.


28 posted on 11/13/2007 2:02:29 PM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: GOPologist
All science offers is models and theories. Nothing in science is ever ‘proven’. Everything awaits a more explanatory and predictory model, or contradictory evidence. A theory in science is the highest rank in the hierarchy of scientific explanation.
29 posted on 11/13/2007 2:03:20 PM PST by allmendream (A binary modality is a sure sign you don't understand the problem. (Hunter 08))
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To: yoe
"Featuring trial reenactments based on court transcripts and interviews with key participants

Cool. Do we get to see where the ID proponents perjured themselves when trying to distance the ID policy from their religious agenda?

30 posted on 11/13/2007 2:07:40 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: steve-b
Liar, liar, pants on fire. Sorry, bub, but the "wedge document" has already leaked and exposed that bit of chicanery.

True enough. The Discovery Institute has no credibility left - they've been caught in too many lies.

31 posted on 11/13/2007 2:11:00 PM PST by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: GOPologist
Evolution is not a science—all it offers is a theory.

Heat is explained by one dominant theory too, but you know my house is still pretty warm.

32 posted on 11/13/2007 2:13:00 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Ramius
Oh, looky... another thread about evolution and religion. Maybe this’ll be the one that finally settles it.

Breaking News, no less.

33 posted on 11/13/2007 2:13:19 PM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: gondramB
This is absurd. These people are absurd.

The people making these attacks on science are the people who spend their lives trying to force schools to teach religion.

For them to come back and say that teachers are not allowed to even say they don’t oppose religion and that science doesn’t oppose religion is highly hypocritical.

The lawyers and PR flacks at the Dyscovery Institute are getting hysterical over this NOVA show. I think they are afraid that what once was a dry court transcript is now being made into a memorable visual event -- and the trial showed how truly disingenuous the Dyscovery Institute's support for ID really was.

Here are some of the highlights of the Dyscovery Institute's role in the Dover affair (from the Court's decision).

34 posted on 11/13/2007 2:14:24 PM PST by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: massgopguy

“Can they show Inherit the Wind? That’s a movie about a trial as well.”

I’d drink to that if they also had to show “Monkey Trial”, the American
Experience episode about what happened in Dayton, TN. It’s actually a
decent documentary as “American Experience” is one of the few islands
of quality in the tax-dollar black hole that is PBS.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/monkeytrial/


35 posted on 11/13/2007 2:14:50 PM PST by VOA
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To: allmendream
A theory in science is the highest rank in the hierarchy of scientific explanation.Eh? Check again.
36 posted on 11/13/2007 2:14:59 PM PST by TalonDJ (Nano-meter = 20008)
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To: nsmart

Why anyone would ever trust the government to raise their children is a source of endless amazement to me.


37 posted on 11/13/2007 2:15:58 PM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: nsmart

I just don’t understand why some conservatives seem to fall for the claims of liberals. That tells me something about the power of public school indoctrination.


38 posted on 11/13/2007 2:16:04 PM PST by ari-freedom (I am for traditional moral values, a strong national defense, and free markets.)
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To: Edgerunner
Unless the subject is "Climate Change"...

Man-made global warming is a very young hypothesis. The problem is that it got quickly politicized in only a decade or so and pushed far beyond the evidence by people with non-scientific motivations (like Gore wanting to be relevant).

Contrast with Natural Selection, which came to acceptance on its merits over a much longer period.

39 posted on 11/13/2007 2:17:09 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: yoe

I suggest a counter-point.

40 posted on 11/13/2007 2:17:17 PM PST by Loud Mime (Life was better when cigarette companies could advertise and lawyers could not)
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