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To: Responsibility2nd

In terms of damage done to family and children (and the culture that they comprise), divorce is far, far worse than sodomy. If we as Christians spent the same resources and time fighting divorce as we do homosexuality, we’d all be far better off.

The Church teaches what Jesus taught: no divorce. Ever. For any reason. A man and wife are obligated to stay married even if they end up hating each other’s guts. If a man and wife cannot live together in peace, they may physically separate, but must remain married and faithful to their spouse for the rest of their lives. It is a duty to God.

But we don’t care, because in America personal happiness is our #1 value, not Duty or God. And so the divorce mill grinds on, wrecking lives and ruining our society.

Mrs Chan and I have a wonderful marriage, but even if we didn’t we are both dedicated to marriage as a sacrament and an institution. We take seriously the “until death us do part” thing.


138 posted on 11/13/2007 8:22:15 AM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: B-Chan

“The Church teaches what Jesus taught: no divorce. Ever. For any reason. A man and wife are obligated to stay married even if they end up hating each other’s guts. If a man and wife cannot live together in peace, they may physically separate, but must remain married and faithful to their spouse for the rest of their lives. It is a duty to God.”

That is not what Jesus taught. When asked about marriage by the scribes and pharisees, Jesus simply stated that if you have time, then do it. In other words, you have free will to partake in creation in such a way but are not commanded into marriage. That’s about all He said about it.

The church’s no-divorce ever stance was taken from the Israelites. Men were trading up as the society got lawless (much like today I imagine) and were using the legal system of their day to get rid of their old wives and marry a young wife. Well, back then that was like a death sentence for a women. If you were a divorced women it was the law that you were to be treated as an adultress so you either got to be a prostitute or starve. That was fair justice of God to step in an call a spade a spade. Consider that women of that day were subservient as part of the culture. God’s character may never change but times do. I am an advocate for marriage, responsibility and accountability. I am also an advocate that if whether man or female you are being constently abused you leave the relationship.

The Apostles of Christ admonished us to love our wives as Christ loved the church. That is a tall order but if you apply it, most times it works out well. Christ also showed us that disrespect to Him (because He assume responsibility for caring for us) is a grounds for eternal seperation or divorce if you will. So to me, if I am loving my wife like Christ loved the church and she is abusive, disregarding my care and protection then she can and should have seperation, temporarily at first and permanently if change does not occur.

If you think it is any different with our relationship with the Almighty, then read your bible. Love may be unconditional but blessing in return for disrespect isn’t.


314 posted on 11/13/2007 2:03:08 PM PST by quant5
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To: B-Chan

To you sir, i say “Amen”.

But show me one Christian church ANYWHERE in America that believes what Jesus taught.

I bet you can’t.


428 posted on 11/14/2007 4:12:37 PM PST by Jonathan
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To: B-Chan
In terms of damage done to family and children (and the culture that they comprise), divorce is far, far worse than sodomy. If we as Christians spent the same resources and time fighting divorce as we do homosexuality, we’d all be far better off.

Exactly. Marriage is nearly meaningless now because of no-fault divorce. People don't take it near as seriously. Marriage, RIP.

430 posted on 11/14/2007 4:20:43 PM PST by Swordfished
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To: B-Chan
"by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)"

Yes, at least one question. When you say 'monarchist' whom would you propose for that position, and for what country?

433 posted on 11/14/2007 4:39:01 PM PST by ProCivitas (Duncan Hunter = Pro-Family + Fair Trade = Pro-America. www.gohunter08.com)
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