Posted on 11/12/2007 1:08:04 PM PST by keats5
If by "justice" you mean, "MarkBsnr is duly repaid for a truly idiotic comment when the killers decide his death would also be thrilling."
I stand corrected you are right, they are evil.
You are right....this evil should not be allowed to roam society again
A 17 year old guy that had sex with a 14 year old girl should be decapitated?
It is...and there are some here that appear to think he got exactly what he deserved. Sick.
When a 14 year old wants an abortion, she's entitled to have control over her body, entitled to privacy, empowered, etc. etc.
When same 14 year old wants to boink an 18 year old, all of a sudden she's molested and/or raped and/or taken advantage of and/or too young and/or blah blah blah.
Disgusting, truly.
Throw these Thugs in Prison for the rest of their lives. Better yet, stick needles in these Thugs arms and make them die.
Non consensual sex is usually called rape or forcible rape in the criminal justice system. Since it was called sex, it was in all probability consensual.
His crime is listed as "CRIMINAL SEXUAL ABUSE/VIC 13-17".
In Illinois, the elements of that crime are as follosw:
720 ILCS 5/12‑15) (from Ch. 38, par. 12‑15)
Sec. 12‑15. Criminal sexual abuse.
(a) The accused commits criminal sexual abuse if he or she:
(1) commits an act of sexual conduct by the use of force or threat of force; or
(2) commits an act of sexual conduct and the accused knew that the victim was unable to understand the nature of the act or was unable to give knowing consent.
(b) The accused commits criminal sexual abuse if the accused was under 17 years of age and commits an act of sexual penetration or sexual conduct with a victim who was at least 9 years of age but under 17 years of age when the act was committed.
(c) The accused commits criminal sexual abuse if he or she commits an act of sexual penetration or sexual conduct with a victim who was at least 13 years of age but under 17 years of age and the accused was less than 5 years older than the victim.
So since the crime description itself points to paragraph (c), this suggests that he just might have been convicted of having consensual sex with his 17-and-a-half-year-old girlfriend when he was 18.
It'll remain to be seen when the details of his case come out.
Oops, I guess I missed the details with respect to him having sex with a 14-year-old.
How exactly did two teens “lure” a man ten years older than they into a garage?
I suspect it was consensual, since the 13-17 age range does not go to the forcible or non-consenting paragraphs of the Illinois criminal sexual conduct law.
In some States, a 17yo boy having intercourse with his 14yo girlfriend would be no crime at all ... in others, “15 will get you 20”.
But Dexter always gets it right - he follows “The Code”.
What a waste of taxpayer dollars!
So in Illinois two 16 year olds can be convicted of sexual abuse and be labeled sexual predators for the rest of their lives for having sex with each other. Thats pretty messed up.
Murder is not okay, even if the victim is a registered sex offender.
Thank you for putting much more flair in a response to the "raking leaves" comment than I would have.
A case like this calls for the reinstatement of the death penalty for violent offenders under 18.
Michigan Penal Code, page 4 of 4
750.520e. Fourth degree criminal sexual conduct
Sec. 520e. (1) A person is guilty of criminal sexual conduct in the fourth degree if he or she engages in sexual contact with another person and any of the following circumstances exists:
(a) Force or coercion is used to accomplish the sexual contact. Force or coercion includes but is not limited to any of the circumstances listed in section (1) (f) (I) to (v).
(b) The actor knows or has reason to know that the victim is incapable, mentally incapacitated, or physically helpless.
(c) That other person is under the jurisdiction of the department of corrections, and the actor is an employee or a contractual employee or volunteer with, the department of corrections who has knowledge that the other person is under the jurisdiction of the department of corrections.
(2) Criminal sexual conduct in the fourth degree is a misdemeanor punishable by imprisonment for not more than 2 years, or by a fine of not more than $500.00 or both.
Maybe some more people need to look at this case as well.
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