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To: PlainOleAmerican
Well, if he's wrong on national security, then the current administration is ten times as wrong, with wide open borders, no security checks and open arms, while supposedly operating a war on terror.

Are we, really, prosecuting a war on terror? The data suggest not. So what could we be doing? Perhaps we are really trying to regionalize the Middle East and Africa like we are doing with the Americas.

Puts a different cast on events.

Now, let's consider national defense. It is important to any nation. It must have been important to Stalin, Pol Pot, any nation regardless of its political organization. National security knows no ideology of liberty or oppression.

What is supremely important is what kind of nation we are organized under what kind of social norms or laws and statutes. What kind of nation we want to keep secure. Or whether, under the rubric of security, we merge ourselves into a conflicting mass of Balkanization and lose our unique identity.

If the latter, then I'm not too sure I even care to keep it secure. So let's not "national security" me. I'm first concerned about just what exactly we are protecting.

472 posted on 11/12/2007 8:12:08 AM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: William Terrell

You put your thought’s together very well William, but with flawed logic.

“Well, if he’s wrong on national security, then the current administration is ten times as wrong”

Their fact based record says something different, post 9/11. The facts say that we are indeed safer on US soil since 9/11.

“with wide open borders, no security checks and open arms, while supposedly operating a war on terror.”

While I agree with closing our borders, I disagree with your premise. The fact is, if we do not confront this threat abroad, we will have to lock down on guns and increase the Patriot Act powers in order to confront them here. No getting around this reality...

“It is important to any nation. It must have been important to Stalin, Pol Pot,”

Here’s where your emotion driven illogical train really leaves the track. And right here is why conservative rightfully accuse Paul and his supporters of adopting leftist propaganda to promote their agenda.

To compare America or Bush to PolPot or Stalin is insane and that’s where the exchange ends.

This is exactly why RP has almost NO support from conservatives and so long as his campaign spews leftist drivel taken straight from the DNC campaign manual, he never will have.


491 posted on 11/12/2007 8:55:11 AM PST by PlainOleAmerican
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