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Why the Ron Paul Campaign is Dangerous
NewsBull ^ | November 11, 2007 | JB Williams

Posted on 11/11/2007 12:39:35 PM PST by PlainOleAmerican

I hate wasting this much press time on Ron Paul. But the Paul campaign is becoming a real threat to the Republican primary process and if allowed to continue, he will take votes away from the most conservative Republican candidates in the party, not the most liberal. This is bad for the party and the country.

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So, how Republican is Republican candidate Ron Paul?

If he’s funded largely by anti-war leftists, from Democrat stronghold districts and counting on Democrats, Libertarians and members of the Green Party to win the Republican nomination, not very…

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: braindeadzombiecult; campaigns; conservative; conspiracytheory; funding; nutburger; paulbotsarenuts; paulestinians; republicans; ronpaul
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To: listenhillary
You must then assume that Ron Paul would have us not have intervened in any wars we have fought to keep people free. Pretty sad and self centered foreign policy. We have the power and choose to let evil triumph. Let jihad reign says Sir Paul!

I don't know what wars he would have been for or against.

But that is why Congress is suppose to declare war, to go on record of its commitment to it.

As for a 'self-centered' policy, all nations policies are suppose to be 'self-centered' and that was exactly what Washington warned us about when he told us about 'entangling alliances'.

The American Gov't has a responsiblity to the American people and no others.

Our power is not unlimited and we had better recognize that before we go the way of Persia, Greece, Rome, Spain, and Britain.

Our greatest asset to the world is our very existance as the freest nation on earth and that is what will need to export to the world, the American ideal of freedom.

We cannot force it on the world.

621 posted on 11/12/2007 3:35:42 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (We must beat the Democrats or the country will be ruined! - Lincoln)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Don't bother responding to any other points left dangling, at this juncture.

ROFL. That thread, my reply was just a general statement to Iwo Jima. It had nothing to do with you specifically.

If you're already on the thread I don't have to PING you anyway, FYI.

622 posted on 11/12/2007 3:37:20 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: wagglebee
Were we being “interventionists” when we went to war with Germany in 1941? How about when we invaded Afghanistan?

I believe we had a declaration of war against Germany after they declared war on us

We invaded Afghanistan to attack those who were sheltering terrorists who had attacked the United States.

See the pattern?

If the United States is attacked we can strike back.

Now, you want to go through a list of combat actions since WW2 that the United States had no business engaging in and many were in fact, UN operations?

623 posted on 11/12/2007 3:40:31 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (We must beat the Democrats or the country will be ruined! - Lincoln)
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To: wagglebee

By the way, when is the United States going to get around to freeing Tibet?


624 posted on 11/12/2007 3:42:03 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (We must beat the Democrats or the country will be ruined! - Lincoln)
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To: fortheDeclaration

No we should just stand by and watch nation after nation fall into darkness.


625 posted on 11/12/2007 3:42:23 PM PST by listenhillary (You get more of what you focus on)
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To: listenhillary
Are you claiming antiwar.com as Libertarian truth?

Antiwar.com was begun in opposition to Clinton's Kosovo War. You know, the war that FReepers & Republicans opposed then and called it foreign-policy meddling and nation-building?

It's purpose now is irrelevant to the discussion.

626 posted on 11/12/2007 3:46:14 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: fortheDeclaration

“If the United States is attacked we can strike back.”

And if the attack could have been prevented and we lose NY, Boston and DC next time? Will your policy stand up to criticism of the American people?


627 posted on 11/12/2007 3:47:53 PM PST by listenhillary (You get more of what you focus on)
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To: wagglebee
Were we being “interventionists” when we went to war with Germany in 1941? How about when we invaded Afghanistan?

We declared war the very next day after Pearl Harbor (Germany declared war on us). Paul supported going into Afghanistan. If Bush would've asked Congress to declare war on 09/12, all of this would be moot.

628 posted on 11/12/2007 3:48:48 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: listenhillary
No we should just stand by and watch nation after nation fall into darkness.

And you think the United States can save every nation?

The U.S. has to recognize it has limitations.

We have to protect our interests and in doing so that protects the interests of other nations as well.

629 posted on 11/12/2007 3:49:54 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (We must beat the Democrats or the country will be ruined! - Lincoln)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

So, are you saying that there is a Constitutional ban against America owning and manning military installations outside of the country?


630 posted on 11/12/2007 3:51:14 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
So, are you saying that there is a Constitutional ban against America owning and manning military installations outside of the country?

Nice strawman

631 posted on 11/12/2007 3:53:18 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: listenhillary
[“If the United States is attacked we can strike back.”]

And if the attack could have been prevented and we lose NY, Boston and DC next time? Will your policy stand up to criticism of the American people?

Do you mean 'not' prevented?

We have the ability to respond to any attack with overwhelming force.

That is what kept the Soviets from striking us.

Now, what we have to be concerned with is defending the U.S. which means, putting up a missle defense system and getting our own immigration policy in order.

632 posted on 11/12/2007 3:54:41 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (We must beat the Democrats or the country will be ruined! - Lincoln)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
"It's purpose now is irrelevant to the discussion."

You said their were no connections to the left. So you must claim antiwar.com as Libertarian. The commentators and bloggers posting on it espouse Libertarian philosophy.

http://www.libertariansforpaul.com/category/libertarians-for-ron-paul/


633 posted on 11/12/2007 3:54:58 PM PST by listenhillary (You get more of what you focus on)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
If Bush would've asked Congress to declare war on 09/12, all of this would be moot.

I was an intel SNCO at 9/11 if you asked me who was responsible I would of told you "I don't know". At the time we had no proof that it was Bin Laden, only speculation. It took us several days before we could prove it was Bin Laden.

Be careful of posting reports stating otherwise they are hindsight reports.


634 posted on 11/12/2007 3:55:26 PM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I’m simply asking because Paul wants to remove all American troops from South Korea, Japan and Germany.


635 posted on 11/12/2007 3:56:47 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: fortheDeclaration

“We have the ability to respond to any attack with overwhelming force. That is what kept the Soviets from striking us. “

The Soviets were somewhat rational. The Jihadists are not.


636 posted on 11/12/2007 3:56:48 PM PST by listenhillary (You get more of what you focus on)
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To: fortheDeclaration

You are saying we should never intervene.


637 posted on 11/12/2007 3:57:50 PM PST by listenhillary (You get more of what you focus on)
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To: listenhillary
Antiwar.com is libertarian. Libertarian is not the same as liberal.

Ergo, Paul's foreign policy isn't liberal. It's actually old-right Taft conservative.

638 posted on 11/12/2007 3:59:28 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: fortheDeclaration

A missile defense system is a nice idea if we are dealing with intercontinental missiles.

Most likely we will not have that option.


639 posted on 11/12/2007 3:59:55 PM PST by listenhillary (You get more of what you focus on)
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To: wagglebee
I’m simply asking because Paul wants to remove all American troops from South Korea, Japan and Germany.

Paul has said plenty of times that had our troops been withdrawn from Korea, the peninsula would be united much like Vietnam is now. A Seoul newspaper a few days ago endorsed this.

640 posted on 11/12/2007 4:01:53 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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