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Why the Ron Paul Campaign is Dangerous
NewsBull ^ | November 11, 2007 | JB Williams

Posted on 11/11/2007 12:39:35 PM PST by PlainOleAmerican

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To: billbears

You guys are always the loudest, but with the least to say...

The column uses a collection of very valid sources. Former Ron Paul aide for six years, official campaign finance filings which anyone can easily confirm with a little research of their own at the named sources, and Paul campaign sites openly promoting party swapping to hijack the RNC nomination.

These are the columns claims and those claims are obviously supported by all of the above sources, named in the piece.

Nope, I’m with you. I see no reason why any RP supporter would want to respect any of these facts easy to confirm. If they did, they have to eat crow and change candidates...


121 posted on 11/11/2007 2:25:16 PM PST by PlainOleAmerican
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To: deport
I believe the FR polls are quite representative of the trend among the true conservative base. The rest of the party runs the gamut from moderates to liberals, but the base makes and breaks elections. We send money, we work for our candidates, and we are the consistent voters.

If the base coalesces around a candidate, the power and momentum will be substantial. The trouble is, if we are still so divided by the time the votes are cast, and that time is only 2 months away, the moderate to liberal wing of the party as well as those who are fearful to vote for anyone who is not at the top of the polls, will make Rudy the nominee.

122 posted on 11/11/2007 2:25:41 PM PST by Route66 (America's Main Street - - - President Fred D. Thompson /"The Constitution means what is says.")
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To: Paperdoll

You are confusing things. The vote on FR for Fred is a CFR plot to supress Hunter.

I thought you knew that.


123 posted on 11/11/2007 2:27:53 PM PST by ejonesie22 (Real voters in real voting booths will elect FDT.)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
Video footage of Ron Paul supporters, accosting passersby and loudly declaring that "9/11 was an inside job!"

(... but these are good, sane conservatives making up his support base, mind you...) ;)

124 posted on 11/11/2007 2:27:57 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!" -- Jim Robinson, 09/30/07)
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To: Puddleglum

There is no Republican out there challenging the status quo except Paul.
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not true. Rudy is on abortion. Huck is on illegals. So Ron Paul isn’t the only republican who wants to bring the party closer to the left.


125 posted on 11/11/2007 2:30:03 PM PST by ari-freedom (I am for traditional moral values, a strong national defense, and free markets.)
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To: traviskicks

“I’m not sure he can have it both ways.”

Both ways? He’s saying RP is only a threat to the RNC nomination process due to perverting it withg leftist suporters. How is that two different statements?

“only? lol I think there is a big number of these, and they account for the majority of Paul’s support, IMO.”

You think there are a HUGE number of Republicans ready to throw national security under the bus and retreat in defeat by supporting Paul just because they’re angry with Bush over his spending?

I’d say nearly ALL Republcican voters are looking for a fiscally conservative candidate for a change. But damn few are willing to retreat in defeat from the WOT to elect a nut like Paul. That’s the statement in the coulmn. Are you really disagreeing?


126 posted on 11/11/2007 2:30:03 PM PST by PlainOleAmerican
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To: JerseyHighlander; PlainOleAmerican
Bush made specific efforts to court these groups in both elections (Long Beach and NYC, NJ, CT, Boca Raton Fl, etc) especially in the 2000 election cycle.

You are totally off base.

Places like Manhattan, Greenwich, CT and the Palm Beach/Boca Raton are are ALWAYS going to give large amounts of money to both parties. This is because they are extremely wealthy areas. However, they will almost always give to "top tier" candidates who can actually win, especially this early in the nomination process. Also, when they give it is usually the maximum amount and this is often done at fund raising parties.

People who live in $5 million+ mansions or penthouses ARE NOT making $98 credit card donations to ANY candidate and especially not to one who is proposing radical federal changes that will throw the economy into turmoil.

127 posted on 11/11/2007 2:30:55 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: JerseyHighlander

Spoken like a true RP mindless minion...

Well done!


128 posted on 11/11/2007 2:31:19 PM PST by PlainOleAmerican
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

EXACTLY! THANK YOU!


129 posted on 11/11/2007 2:31:52 PM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (“We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!” --Duncan Hunter)
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To: A CA Guy

Yep...


130 posted on 11/11/2007 2:32:03 PM PST by PlainOleAmerican
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Now that is funny...


131 posted on 11/11/2007 2:32:08 PM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: ari-freedom
not true. Rudy is on abortion. Huck is on illegals. So Ron Paul isn’t the only republican who wants to bring the party closer to the left


132 posted on 11/11/2007 2:32:49 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!" -- Jim Robinson, 09/30/07)
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To: A CA Guy; Jim Robinson
Look for the self righteous dumb voters to help Hillary by not voting Republican as some moronic version of a protest vote or non-vote.

These people are just plain stupid and don’t get that if you don’t get the Republican in, you get the fire breathing Hillary who will not give us conservative judges, less taxes and less social programs.

Some people are going to be dimwits again and I bet they will boast of their stupidity here on FR after they did it like they believe they were being heroes instead of the morons they really are.

Here's the opinion of another "California Guy":

To: Jim Robinson

Nothing wrong with fighting for your candidate in the primary. But once the dust clears we have to support the anti-Hillary Republican candidate regardless of who he is. Hillary would be a loser for us all the way around.

159 posted on 11/07/2007 8:12:52 PM CST by gesully (gesully) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies | Report Abuse ]

To: gesully

Sorry, I will not be supporting a constitution trampling, gun grabbing, pro-abortion, pro-planned parenthood, pro-gay agenda, pro-thought crimes, pro sanctuary city liberal candidate for president. Best double and redouble your efforts to nominate a conservative instead of whining about Hillary.

160 posted on 11/07/2007 8:18:11 PM CST by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)

133 posted on 11/11/2007 2:34:45 PM PST by Graybeard58 ( Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: wagglebee

OK, you make a valid point.

BUT, regarding the techies(we’ll assume who are at least middle class) donating to Ron Paul, those are new participants in the political process. And they tend to live in zip codes that are overwhelmingly liberal.


134 posted on 11/11/2007 2:35:40 PM PST by JerseyHighlander
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To: mhx

He’s going to fool them? Republican primary voters are stupid? I don’t get it.
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the point is not that Republicans are stupid people but rather that Ron Paul is getting stupid people to register as Republicans


135 posted on 11/11/2007 2:35:55 PM PST by ari-freedom (I am for traditional moral values, a strong national defense, and free markets.)
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To: michigander

If you’re the child...


136 posted on 11/11/2007 2:36:03 PM PST by PlainOleAmerican
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Nice blind attack on Dondero. Learn that at your DU meeting? Where the credible link to support your assertion? Or did you think the blind unfounded assertion alone would be enough?


137 posted on 11/11/2007 2:38:08 PM PST by PlainOleAmerican
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To: PlainOleAmerican
Nice blind attack on Dondero.

I see that as shunning a Lamb that has left the flock.


138 posted on 11/11/2007 2:41:18 PM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: rob777
If Ron Paul can win the Republican nomination with support from Republicans, why is his campaign taking money from leftist organizations and promoting party swapping to help him out in primaries that currently show him below 45 support among Republicans?

And why would any Republican support any candidate counting on leftists to help him through the nomination?

139 posted on 11/11/2007 2:41:47 PM PST by PlainOleAmerican
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To: Paperdoll

Don’t know???

Though I wouldn’t describe Hunter or Thompson the way you just did.


140 posted on 11/11/2007 2:42:55 PM PST by PlainOleAmerican
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