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1 posted on 11/10/2007 7:57:10 PM PST by secretagent
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Ouch

The US Navy, just one blunder after another!

2 posted on 11/10/2007 8:00:09 PM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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I think this is an old, recycled story that keeps popping up. I think I have seen it a dozen times in the last year. It originally happened in 2005 or 2007 sometime.


3 posted on 11/10/2007 8:00:15 PM PST by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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The Chinese are going to try something.


4 posted on 11/10/2007 8:04:08 PM PST by wastedyears (One Marine vs. 550 consultants. Sounds like good odds to me.)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1923614/posts


5 posted on 11/10/2007 8:05:08 PM PST by em2vn
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A couple of decades ago China was a backward, isolated society. We’ve been building up the greatest potential enemy in our history by suicidal trade policies. The Chinese have bought enough of our corrupt politicians in both parties (not just the Clintons) that this policy will not change. Only Duncan Hunter seems to care about this. Internationalists or global-trade freaks like Giuliani or Romney certainly don’t.


6 posted on 11/10/2007 8:05:37 PM PST by hellbender
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Dielsel electrics are extemely quiet and can do a lot of damage in coastal waters. That’s not news.


7 posted on 11/10/2007 8:08:11 PM PST by saganite
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What can you do though? We aren’t at war with China, so we can’t just sink their sub for getting too close, right?


8 posted on 11/10/2007 8:11:13 PM PST by kc8ukw
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Ping

According to senior Nato officials the incident caused consternation in the U.S. Navy.

I'm betting THAT is an understatement of great proportion.

10 posted on 11/10/2007 8:13:19 PM PST by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll. "What happens if neutrinos have mass?")
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Somebody better get their head out of their rear-end. Certainly, the residual effects of the Scumbag Administration left long-term damage to the military, but Bush has been in for seven years now. Clearly we need to upgrade certain technologies.


17 posted on 11/10/2007 8:24:34 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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Seems I recall a few tech secrets going to the chi-coms for campaign cash during the Clinton Administration. Nah ... couldn’t be.


20 posted on 11/10/2007 8:30:48 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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We knew to the minute when the rice was loaded on that sub for the crew and every minute after that. The only way to even do any damage would be if they detonated a multi megaton nuke while it was aboard.


22 posted on 11/10/2007 8:31:08 PM PST by Eye of Unk
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After all the so called useless technology the 1st Clinton sold to Chian, wonder what the 2nd Clinton would do?


24 posted on 11/10/2007 8:36:19 PM PST by restornu (Improve The Shining Moment! Don't let them pass you by... PRESS FORWARD MITT)
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Perhaps this Chinese submaraine was allowed surface with the knowledge of the U.S.A. Navy.

I think so.

This floating Chinese turd could have been sent to the latrine of hell, at the command of the U.S.A.


29 posted on 11/10/2007 8:44:24 PM PST by Hilltop (?)
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If you let people build all of your stuff for you, you'll at first have to show them how to do it. Once you've done that, they'll figure more out for themselves (or steal what they need). Then, while your kids are playing video games, they'll turn out millions of smart, motivated engineers and begin the process of your dismantlement.

Welcome to the new millenium, America...

31 posted on 11/10/2007 8:48:18 PM PST by snarks_when_bored
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The uninvited guest: Chinese sub pops up in middle of U.S. Navy exercise

Chinese sub? I wouldn't worry about it. It'll be recalled sooner or later.

36 posted on 11/10/2007 10:50:33 PM PST by Zack Attack
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counter intel anyone? That would be my ploy if I were Navy Brass....let them think we didn’t know they ere there.


40 posted on 11/11/2007 1:06:16 AM PST by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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Old story. Didn’t happen the way it’s portrayed. If people want to use it as a scare tactic to increase funding for our own submarine force, though, I’m all for it.


41 posted on 11/11/2007 2:12:22 AM PST by Sandreckoner
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For modern navies, there is no ship more enviable than the aircraft carrier, eh? No ship is a more tempting target to the modern submarine, either. A recent post here described how a South African submarine “sank” every NATO ship involved in an exercise off the Cape. (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1891291/posts)

Today’s best torpedos are capable of triple-digit speeds while completely submerged, and many submarines are capable of firing some version of guided or cruise missile. Today’s aircraft carriers may be useful for anti-insurgent force projection in an imbalanced, suppressive way, but in matched naval conflict, the carriers will probably be crippled, or even underwater, fairly quickly.


46 posted on 11/11/2007 8:01:21 AM PST by flowerplough (La Tolteca in Rehoboth, Delaware: They probably cater Fiesta Night in Heaven)
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I was a Top Secret-SIOP ESI cleared officer while in the Air Force.

We were tracking this sub with acoustical techniques and satellite imagery. Remember when we recovered a Soviet Submarine that had sunk in the Pacific. We knew where it was and used a CIA built deep water recovery ship to pull that sub out of 16,000 feet of water.

Of course the last paragraph contains classified material so now I have to shoot you. Please come to DFW and I'll only be to glad to maintain this classified material until the next doofus posts this type of material.

Quae Cum Ita Sunt!

Sub K129

48 posted on 11/11/2007 8:24:15 AM PST by Young Werther (Julius Caesar (Quae Cum Ita Sunt. Since these things are so.))
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How recent is this incident? The one last spring?


60 posted on 11/11/2007 4:52:04 PM PST by RightWhale (anti-razors are pro-life)
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