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The Truth on Trade (It's Boosting U.S. Incomes)
Cato via New York Post ^ | November 7, 2007 | Daniel Griswold

Posted on 11/10/2007 10:03:26 AM PST by 1rudeboy

Daniel Griswold directs the Cato Institute's Center for Trade Policy Studies and authored the new study, "Trading Up: How Expanding Trade Has Delivered Better Jobs and Higher Living Standards for American Workers," available at freetrade.org.

President Bush urged Congress yesterday to pass four pending trade agreements, telling a White House audience that open markets boost economic growth, raise standards of living by creating higher-paying jobs and deliver more choice and better prices for consumers. Despite claims to the contrary by populist opponents of trade expansion, the president has the facts and decades of experience on his side.

Critics of trade counter that real wages have stagnated while the middle class has been squeezed by a loss of jobs to low-wage competitors such as China and Mexico. Democrats in Congress point to those anxieties to justify their opposition to any meaningful trade-expanding legislation — including pending free trade accords with South Korea and Colombia and renewal of presidential trade-promotion authority.

Like so many assumptions about trade, the belief that more global competition has somehow lowered the living standards of the average American worker and family is just a myth.

The critics have it all wrong: The middle class isn't disappearing — it's moving up.

The Census reports that the share of U.S. households earning $35,000 to $75,000 a year (in '06 dollars) — roughly, the middle class — has indeed shrunk slightly over the last decade, from 34 percent to 33 percent. But so, too, has the share earning less than $35,000 — from 40 percent to 37 percent.

It's the share of households earning more than $75,000 that's jumped — from 26 percent to 30 percent.

Trade has helped America transform itself into a middle-class service economy. Yes, the country's lost a net 3.3 million manufacturing jobs . . .

(Excerpt) Read more at freetrade.org ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cafta; cato; nafta; trade; wto
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To: 1rudeboy

From now on I’ll read something that’s not there into everything you post. There now, settle down.


21 posted on 11/10/2007 11:13:49 AM PST by Lijahsbubbe
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To: 1rudeboy

Well, we can all be assured you’ll have a job...

(spamming FR with so-called “free trade” propaganda)

:)

/sort of


22 posted on 11/10/2007 11:15:06 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (I like Duncan Hunter)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

It’s my pleasure. Someone needs to keep the Dem sleepers and third party malcontents on their toes.


23 posted on 11/10/2007 11:16:34 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Lijahsbubbe
You could also try reading the article, for starters. I'll post some more here before others start with the Barbra Streisand (Feelings, nothing more than, feelings):

The U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reports that the average real hourly compensation earned by Americans has actually grown by 22 percent during the past decade — even as trade and other measures of globalization have grown rapidly.

24 posted on 11/10/2007 11:19:05 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

The falling dollar correlates more toward the uncertainty
of our congressional leadership.

Yes, a sharply devalued dollar could bolster inflation. However our economy
grew at 3.9% annually last quarter so I don’t believe there’s too much to worry about.

I’m more worried about the “green” stranglehold over our congress. No oil, no prosperity.


25 posted on 11/10/2007 11:22:02 AM PST by ChiMark
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To: 1rudeboy

Oh, you want me to read some more of statistics that you keep changing the meaning of? Ha.


26 posted on 11/10/2007 11:22:29 AM PST by Lijahsbubbe
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To: Lijahsbubbe

Of course not. You failed to consider them the first time. Why should the second time be any different?


27 posted on 11/10/2007 11:24:27 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Lijahsbubbe
Eventually we will have workers making wages comparable to the rest of the world and there will only be two classes, the poor and the elite.

Tax the greedy elite, for the poor!

The Census reports that the share of U.S. households earning $35,000 to $75,000 a year (in '06 dollars) — roughly, the middle class — has indeed shrunk slightly over the last decade, from 34 percent to 33 percent. But so, too, has the share earning less than $35,000 — from 40 percent to 37 percent.

Darn it, there are fewer poor. I blame free trade.

28 posted on 11/10/2007 11:30:50 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (What came first, the bad math or the goldbuggery?)
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To: 1rudeboy
You're right, the second time won't be any different. You'll say that's not what you really meant.
29 posted on 11/10/2007 11:32:32 AM PST by Lijahsbubbe
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To: Toddsterpatriot
But, but . . . certainly you must know a roofer or a lanscaper! [MEANINGLESS POINT=OFF]
30 posted on 11/10/2007 11:33:43 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Lijahsbubbe

You really need to take a closer look at my comment #6, and your reaction to it in your comment #7. The fact of the matter is, I am discussing data and you are demagoguing . . . that’s why you made the bee-line for the tall grass by telling me to “talk to real people.” As if I don’t. Har.


31 posted on 11/10/2007 11:38:19 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
If 300 million Americans are wealthy, but there’s one poor roofer, it’s proof the free trade has failed!
32 posted on 11/10/2007 11:41:34 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (What came first, the bad math or the goldbuggery?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

More accurately, it’s “proof” that incomes are not rising for anyone.


33 posted on 11/10/2007 11:47:20 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: All
My "free trade" objections are almost 100 percent to do with Red China. There is no question that free trade is essential. Now on to the question.

The U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reports that the average real hourly compensation earned by Americans has actually grown by 22 percent during the past decade — even as trade and other measures of globalization have grown rapidly.

I wish these guys would cite their sources -- maybe I wouldn't have to ask. BLS is pretty big.

Employment, Hours, and Earnings from the Current Employment Statistics survey (National) Yes, wages are up including adjusting for inflation no doubt.

Total Private Average Hourly Earnings of Production Workers - Seasonally Adjusted, January

1997 12.29

2007 17.10

It appears that production workers include these sectors Goods-producing; Natural Resources and Mining; Construction; Manufacturing; Private Service-providing; Trade, Transportation and Utilities; Wholesale Trade; Retail Trade; Transportation and Warehousing; Information; Financial Activities; Professional and Business Services; Education and Health Services; Leisure and Hospitality; and Other Services.

For example,

Private Service-providing Average Hourly Earnings of Production Workers - Seasonally Adjusted, January

1997 11.84

2007 16.77

Manufacturing Average Hourly Earnings of Production Workers - Seasonally Adjusted, January

1997 12.99

2007 16.98

However..

Total Private Average Hourly Earnings, 1982 Dollars - Seasonally Adjusted, January

1982 7.89

1997 7.61

2007 8.36

Total Private Average Hourly Earnings, 1982 Dollars - Not Seasonally Adjusted, January

1982 7.94

1997 7.66

2007 8.42

With a base year as an index the increases are not in the twenty-two percent neighborhood. (Sill an increase of course.) Isn't this index a better indicator of how well off the average wage earner is?

Notice the drop between 1982 and 1997 and now the increase, does this suggest we're adjusting to our "new" economy? IOW, can't both sides be more or less right? It hurt for awhile but we're making the adjustments.

34 posted on 11/10/2007 12:51:49 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

You are just so sophisticated! You got any idea when the down turn on Wall Street will change direction?

The roofer will not care about a hourly wage if wall street keeps heading south


35 posted on 11/10/2007 1:45:58 PM PST by Mojohemi
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To: 1rudeboy; All

I happen to be in the IT industry.. My attitude is this, keep on learning if you don’t you have no job..


36 posted on 11/10/2007 1:48:41 PM PST by KevinDavis (Mitt Romney 08)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
My guess is that Griswold's source is buried in here, somewhere. Click. It appears to be the original source for the piece.
37 posted on 11/10/2007 2:08:18 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

LM_AO!


38 posted on 11/10/2007 2:17:28 PM PST by LowCountryJoe (I'm a Paleo-liberal: I believe in freedom; am socially independent and a borderline fiscal anarchist)
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To: 1rudeboy
Yes, thanks for the link. So far I did not see a footnote with the 22-percent claim.

The author does reference the 1982-based data; it's a little more telling than I presented because I did not look at wages prior to 1982; to wit, ". . . official statistics show that the average real hourly wage paid to American workers is lower today than in the 1970s. From a peak of $8.99 an hour in 1972, the average real wage (in 1982 dollars) declined steadily to a low of $7.52 in 1993 before rising again to $8.32 during the first half of 2007.14 The statistic that the average real wage remains below its peak of more than 30 years ago has become a rhetorical battering ram against trade liberalization, but it fails to capture the reality of the progress Americans have made in a more globalized era."

Then he goes on to try to explain it away with charts and several pages. I'll need to rest up before tackling that.

39 posted on 11/10/2007 4:24:52 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Mojohemi
RE: "when [will] the down turn on Wall Street . . . change direction?"

My guess is when "they" see that the little people are starting to buy, then buy and buy and run up the price as "they" sell to the little people. Then ka-boom! Repeat. :)

I've seen lots and lots of recessions, inflation, stagnation, and stagflation (once) since the 1940s. We all survived.

40 posted on 11/10/2007 4:38:03 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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