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Spot on.
1 posted on 11/10/2007 8:23:33 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It is amazing to me how much self-righteousness these guys can work up over stunts that at best do nothing positive, and quite often are a net negative for the environment.


2 posted on 11/10/2007 8:27:41 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

NBC’s green campaign during the Sunday night football game has motivated me: I’m going to save energy by not watching NBC anymore.


3 posted on 11/10/2007 8:29:56 AM PST by 04-Bravo
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Liberals ALWAYS need a self created CRISIS:

“You do know that the parent company of NBC is General Electric, right? You do know that for GE, green is first and foremost the color of money, right? As Tim Carney explains in vivid detail in his wonderful book, “The Big Ripoff,” GE’s “ecomagination” campaign is simultaneously a way to brand itself as a “progressive” company and a means of shaking the money tree - the most sustainable planting of them all - growing in Congress’ backyard.”


4 posted on 11/10/2007 8:31:03 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The best little gem of the entire week.....

The Rockefeller Christmas tree arrived this week. The hypocrites on the Today show lamented that “to save energy” the tree was cut by hand saws instead of chainsaws wasting all that horrific gasoline......but it was shipped into NY on a flatbed semi truck...

As long as they feel “good” about it is all that matters....


6 posted on 11/10/2007 8:31:27 AM PST by submarinerswife ("If I win I can't be stopped! If I lose I shall be dead." - George S. Patton)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

During the game Sunday night, we saw a lot of Blue!!!!!!


7 posted on 11/10/2007 8:31:40 AM PST by Perdogg (Elections have consequences.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Think how much better the world would be if NBC and it’s affiliates turned off all the lights and went home.


9 posted on 11/10/2007 8:32:12 AM PST by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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Exposed. Makes me see red.


10 posted on 11/10/2007 8:32:59 AM PST by big'ol_freeper ("Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Universally dull and stupid.
11 posted on 11/10/2007 8:35:29 AM PST by Richard Axtell (Keith Oberman represents the nadir of American journalism.)
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But so long as environmentalists approve of the message, they've got no problem whatsoever with the messengers.

The ends always justifies the means to socialists and intentions are more important than results. It has always been that way throughout history....So what if people have to die or if the exact opposite of the stated intent happens: it's "for the children."

You know this is just one more reason to bring on the fairness doctrine and regulate the Internet....b/c people like you are just trying to ruin everything! (said in best liberal whine)
12 posted on 11/10/2007 8:35:30 AM PST by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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I recall Lightbulb Johnson (LBJ) turning out the lights at the Whitehouse....publicity stunt all the way.


13 posted on 11/10/2007 8:36:15 AM PST by stboz
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Of course their target audience is the “Sheeple”, democrats, greenies, left-wing lunatics, these are the “the sky is falling, the sky is falling” idiots who believe this Climate change cr@p!!


18 posted on 11/10/2007 8:46:20 AM PST by PROCON
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I was not a believer, but NBC Green Weak changed my mind.

NBC is run by PR Whores.

20 posted on 11/10/2007 9:02:41 AM PST by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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Jonah Goldberg observes the Left suspends its normal loathing of capitalism and the marketplace if business promotes a politically correct message.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

21 posted on 11/10/2007 9:05:45 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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Glenn Beck brought up a couple of interesting facts yesterday.

Seems that GE, PARENT COMPANY of NBC, bought out some (all?) of ENRON's interests in "alternative energy sources" and carbon trading.

They're corporate whores and nothing more, trying to line their own pockets.

23 posted on 11/10/2007 9:06:56 AM PST by OKSooner
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Jonah’s been a good writer for a long time.


25 posted on 11/10/2007 9:16:06 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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26 posted on 11/10/2007 9:18:38 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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I noticed last night on Deal or No Deal that the studio lights were as bright as always. Even had Kermit the Frog as a guest (he is green, right). The models on the show had green tips for the viewers like “take your own bags to the grocery store”. Oh Boy!


27 posted on 11/10/2007 9:24:44 AM PST by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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To: Beowulf

~~ AGW™ ping~~


34 posted on 11/10/2007 12:12:56 PM PST by steelyourfaith
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Maybe someone could splain something to me. I live in a TVA zone where all our electricity comes from a hydro-electric dam. So, if I shut off more lights, a barrel of water stays in the lake? Does LA and NYC get their power from burning unleaded or what? If saving electricity is so important, why is it $.06 per KWH?


42 posted on 11/11/2007 7:57:26 AM PST by Boiling point (The Indians had a bad immigration policy and look what happened to them!)
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What’s even more ludicrous about the PR stunt is that it accomplished nothing tangible... zero, zip, zilch. Costas said it wasn’t going to change the world to turn off the studio lights for the evening, but it was a small part. In other words, if all of you “little people” will only sacrifice the world will be better.

Phooey.

Costas gave his message behind half a dozen candles, as though burning candles was morally superior to burning kilowatt hours. Guess which emits more CO2 (although that’s not really a problem, but that’s a whole separate issue), candles or a few lights?

Next, the entire fradulent exercise took place in the evening, when the power is base load. Someone can correct me if I’m wrong, but power generation involves base load and peaking power. Base load power comes from big nuke, coal, and hydro power sources. It cannot be easily ramped up and down. So, base load is set to cover the minimum demand over a 24 hour period. When a million air conditioners kick in during the afternoon, the extra demand is met with peaking plants.

Peaking plants are often combined cycle combustion turbines, which are relatively cheap to build and burn oil or gas. You can ramp them up and ramp them down.

Cut afternoon air conditioning use and combustion turbines can be throttled back. Cut evening lighting use in a TV studio and the base load plants still burn energy. For NBC to make a tangible difference, the lights would need to be permanently cut. An evening’s cut is not really any reduction because the base load plant is still pumping out kWhs.

Of course, this is not entirely accurate today. Because of NIMBY and environmental zealots, utilities find it difficult and risky to build base load generation capacity, so some have turned to turbines as part of their base load. The risk is less and if oil and gas jumps, the public utility commission lets them pass the premium along to the rate base, increasing regulated profits. Too bad if electricity prices are higher than necessary as long as the regulated utility profits are secure and the greenies don’t have to put up with more coal plants, nuke plants, and the snail darters are safe.

Again, someone can correct me if I’m wrong, but the point is NBC’s meaningless act was truly meaningless. It was ALL symbolism and ZERO substance, making it the perfect metaphor for the entire environmental movement.


45 posted on 11/11/2007 7:57:11 PM PST by Entrepreneur
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