On second thought, conservatives give Huckabee an amen elections

The LA Times ^ | 11/9/2007 | Stephanie Simon

[dano1]

After months of dismissing Huckabee as a nice guy with no chance to win, Iowa's influential social conservatives are giving him a second look. The latest polls give him anywhere from 13% to 19% of the vote in Iowa, up from 2% to 3% a few months ago. Those numbers put him in second place behind former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney.

His campaign suggests he can win the state's Jan. 3 caucuses outright, then make a strong showing in New Hampshire, where he's polling fourth.

"I plan to surprise a lot of people," said Huckabee, 52.

To pull it off, he will need thousands of conservative evangelical voters to disregard the advice of their leaders.

Televangelist Pat Robertson this week threw his support behind former New York Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani, saying he wanted to back the man he thought could best protect the country from terrorism. Several intellectual architects of the religious right support Romney, among them James Bopp Jr., a top antiabortion activist, and Paul Weyrich, a founder of the Moral Majority. Kansas Sen. Sam Brownback, who is popular among evangelicals, recently dropped his bid and backed Arizona Sen. John McCain.

In Iowa this week, Huckabee's supporters did not try to hide their disappointment -- and bewilderment -- at the string of big-name endorsements going to other candidates. Their man is not only a preacher, but a lifelong crusader for the causes they cherish. He wants to make abortion a federal crime and to outlaw same-sex marriage. He would like public-school students to learn creationism alongside evolution.

[WOSG]

Check here first

http://taxhikemike.org

Huckster is the Prolife RINO. It’s better than prochoice RINO but not by much.

[WOSG]

Huckabee couldn’t be as bad as Jimmuh Carter, no way.”

No he can’t. A case of measles cant be as bad as leprosy either.

Huckster is pro-life and a liberal/moderate on much of the rest of the issues, from CO2 regs to his tax-hiking in Ark to his pandering to unions while bashing free enterprisers. No thanks.

[dano1]

Our Conservative Choice: An Endorsement of Mike Huckabee
The Evangelical Outpost | 10/25/2007 | Joe Carter with Matthew Anderson and Justin Taylor

"Gov. Huckabee is a candidate that should appeal to fiscal conservatives. He has signed the Presidential Taxpayer Protection Pledge which binds the signer to "oppose any and all efforts to increase the marginal income tax rates for individuals and/or businesses … and oppose any net reduction or elimination of deductions and credits, unless matched dollar for dollar by further reducing tax rates"; he supports the FairTax, which would abolish the IRS and replace the Internal Revenue Code with a consumption tax; he believes in free trade (that is, fair trade) and claims that "globalization, done right, done fairly, can be the equivalent of a big pay raise by allowing us to buy things more cheaply.""

"Some of us were initially duped by the white paper on Huckabee that was released by the Club for Growth. Even though CFG is slightly outside of the mainstream on conservative fiscal policies (CFG is to fiscal conservatism what the Christian Coalition is to social conservatism), we respect the organization and appreciate their valuable work. Nevertheless, we were dismayed by their report that was at times misleading, if not outright dishonest."

"We acknowledge that the Club for Growth believes that state sales taxes should never be increased to pay for such entitlements as education, Medicare, highways, and economic development. We understand that this is the reason that they oppose Gov. Huckabee’s record. But we believe that most Americans—and most conservatives—are not minarchists. We do not think the fiscal conservative bona fides of a man who cut taxes and fees almost 100 times, saving the taxpayers almost $380 million, and left a surplus of nearly $850 million should be denigrated because he took such actions as implementing a 1/8-cent sales tax hike. Although we respect the CFC, we are dismayed at the disingenuous means that the group has used to smear the Governor’s character. "

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The Rap Against Huckabee, What’s true, and what’s not
National Review Online | 10/30/2007 | Byron York

"On immigration, Huckabee is a strong advocate of a fence across the entire U.S.–Mexico border. While Congress debates guest-worker programs, Huckabee tells me, the most important problem is being ignored. “Seal the border,” he says. “Until you do that, you don’t have any control over how many people are coming in, who they are, and where they’re going.” At the same time, Huckabee has taken criticism for his proposal, as governor, to offer Arkansas in-state tuition to illegal aliens and their children. “I have always said you don’t punish a child for the crime of a parent,” Huckabee tells me. “Frankly, it’s in our best interest to try to get that child on to a higher level of education.”

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Why I like Mike for GOP 'bus driver'
WorldNetDaily | 11/8/2007 | Janet Folger

The bus is leaving the station. Two of them, actually. Going to two very different places. ...

I read the Republican destination platform. We're on the right bus. We just need to quit throwing paper-wads at each other long enough to hire the driver who agrees to take us where we want to go. May I suggest a driver without a long record of traffic violations like driving the wrong way on one-way streets such as abortion, marriage and judicial appointments?...

By the way, if you're willing to compromise on life and marriage, go buy a ticket for the RINO safari bus, because you're a Republican in name only. Besides, if Giuliani or Romney were at the wheel, a whole lot of passengers would head for the emergency exit. And of those who remain, they're not likely to chip in for gas or help change a flat tire.

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Immigration Facts

• The Governor opposes and will never allow amnesty.
• Governor Huckabee believes that securing our borders must be our top priority and has reached the level of a national emergency.
• The Governor supports the $3 billion the Senate has voted for border security. This money will train and deploy 23,000 more agents, add four drone planes, build 700 miles of fence and 300 miles of vehicle barriers, and put up 105 radar and camera towers.
• In this age of terror, illegal immigration is not only an economic issue, but also a national security issue.
• Governor Huckabee opposed the amnesty bill that was attempted to be rushed through Congress this summer, and opposed the misnamed DREAM Act, which would have put us on the slippery slope to amnesty for all.
• Governor Huckabee opposes and will not tolerate sanctuaries for illegals.
• Governor Huckabee opposes giving driver's licenses to those who are illegally in our country and supports legislation to prevent states from doing so.
• Governor Huckabee believes illegal aliens who try to vote or try to apply for welfare benefits should be arrested.
• Governor Huckabee will stop punishing cities which try to enforce our laws and protect the economic well-being, physical safety, and quality of life of our citizens.
• Governor Huckabee opposes and will not tolerate employers who hire illegals. They must be punished with fines and penalties so large that they will see it is not worth the risk or profitable.
• Governor Huckabee opposes the economic integration of North America that would create open borders among the United States, Canada, and Mexico.
• Governor Huckabee will never yield one inch of American sovereignty.
• Governor Huckabee will take our country back for those who belong here. No open borders, no amnesty, no sanctuary, no false Social Security numbers, no driver's licenses for illegals.

It has been reported that Mike Huckabee supported benefits for illegals immigrants while he was Governor of Arkansas.

Governor Huckabee never supported benefits for illegal immigrants. In Arkansas, illegal immigrants do not receive welfare benefits or food stamps. Governor Huckabee has always, and will always be supportive of the laws and regulations of the country.

It has also been said that Mike Huckabee was in favor of providing college scholarships for illegal immigrants while he was Governor.

The governor only supported the measure that applied to those who met the academic qualifications and applied for legal citizenship. The measure didn't pass. Governor Huckabee stressed that any student would simply be treated as any other graduate of an Arkansas High School, and not given any special consideration.

Critics say that Governor Huckabee's motives behind opening a Mexican consulate office in Little Rock was to court illegals to come work in Arkansas.

The Mexican consulate provided Arkansas businesses with access to Mexico and opportunities to expand their markets, and would help further ensure that immigrants from Mexico are legal and better able to secure legal documentation. At the same time, the office would open up opportunities for Mexican investors to invest money with Arkansas partners, which would help create more jobs in the state.

Source: Truth Squad: Immigration Facts, Huckabee website, November 02, 2007

[HuntsvilleTxVeteran]

ROFLMAO!

[Nonstatist]

The “conservative evangelicals” who vote for this guy are the same ones who bought Jimmah hook, line, and sinker.

And Bush II

[dforest]

No Huck, nice guy, but a nanny state, pro illegal candidate.

He just won’t do.

[dano1]

Source: Huckabee's website

Faith and Politics

• The First Amendment requires that expressions of faith be neither prohibited nor preferred.
• My faith is my life - it defines me. I don't separate my faith from my personal and professional lives.
• Real faith makes us more humble and mindful, not of the faults of others, but of our own. It makes us less judgmental, as we see others with the same frailties we have.
• Faith gives us strength in the face of injustice and motivates us to do our best for "the least of us."
• Our nation was birthed in a spirit of faith - not a prescriptive faith telling us how or whether to believe, but acknowledging a providence that pervades our world.
  

The First Amendment requires that expressions of faith be neither prohibited nor preferred. We should not banish religion from the public square, but should guarantee access to all voices and views. We should share and debate our faith, but never seek to impose it. When discussing faith and politics, we should honor the "candid" in candidate - I have much more respect for an honest atheist than a disingenuous believer.

My faith is my life - it defines me. My faith doesn't influence my decisions, it drives them. For example, when it comes to the environment, I believe in being a good steward of the earth. I don't separate my faith from my personal and professional lives.

Real faith makes us humble and mindful, not of the faults of others, but of our own. It makes us less judgmental, as we see others with the same frailties we have. Faith gives us strength in the face of injustice and motivates us to do our best for "the least of us."

Our nation was birthed in a spirit of faith - not a prescriptive one telling us whether to believe, but one acknowledging that a providence pervades our world.

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Huckabee (Immigration) Attacks Unfounded
RedState | October 2007 | radicalconservative

Where does Huckabee really stand on the issue of illegal immigration? At first glance of all the chatter, some of the news stories, and the editorials out there floating around, one would believe that Huckabee is, not only soft on illegal immigration, but actually, farther to the left of the issue than our current President. After reading all of the stories out there and listening to the facts in the case against Huckabee, I was beginning to have some serious doubts about the sincerity of this candidate myself, who is admittedly a strong Huckabee supporter.

However, upon doing a little research on this particular issue I discovered that, as usual, there is more than one side to the story. Evidently, the truth of the matter goes a little more like this: Huckabee opposes illegal immigration, supports sealing the border, and opposes amnesty. In a perfect world that would be enough, but this is no perfect world as we all know. The fact of the matter is that there are millions of illegals in this country already, and there is a constant flow of them across our borders each and every day. Another fact, Huckabee supports the deportation of illegal immigrants, but he believes that the process should be a better one.

Case in point is the 119 illegals deported in an Arkansas raid of a plant in 2005, in which officials, without having properly done their homework, proceeded to deport the illegals leaving their children behind here in the states to be a burden to our already overloaded system.

Also, according to the Arkansas State Constitution, children of all ages, whether legal or illegal are entitled to an education. Huckabee following the logic of the state's Constitution, supported allowing children of the illegals to attend Arkansas colleges at in-state rates. Bear in mind these are not individuals who came here illegally, but rather the offspring of those individuals. Holding said offspring responsible for the sins of the parents is like holding anyone else responsible for some crime committed by their forefathers. This is a preposterous notion, a dangerous road, and completely inconsistent with the ideology of compassionate conservatism.

Now, before anyone goes hysterical here, let me point out that we are not suggesting that illegals, who are definately in violation of the law, be given any form of amnesty, nor is there any promotion of the idea of an open border here. However, as in any crime or act of wrongdoing their are always innocents involved who may become collateral damage. Let's be clear there should be a secure border between the U.S. and its bordering nations, there should be no amnesty, and there should always be consequences for breaking the law, but we must remember to follow the ideology of compassionate conservatism as well. After all our system is a system of checks and balances, and we must not forget that there are two sides to the scales of justice. These are the principles that guide Presidential hopeful Mike Huckabee. These are the principles that should guide every American.

Source can be found at http://mikehuckabeepresident2008.blogspot.com/2005/08/msm-huckabee-right-on-illegal.html

http://www.nwaonline.net/articles/2005/08/13/opinion/18editorial.txt

[dforest]

I know Huckabee panders to illegals. No matter what he says now, his record is out there.

I don’t want my POTUS leading a health kick movement. That isn’t the job of the President.

I just know I would end up sorry if I voted for him.

I won’t take that chance again. A persons past tells me all I need to know. All candidates feed BS to get elected. What they have done before is fact.

[Eric Blair 2084]

Sad but true.

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Mike Huckabee, on a wing and a prayer
Salon interview | Nov. 9, 2007 | Michael Scherer

Huckabee: "I think I am as clear on immigration as anybody. But because I also say, "Look, let's not just be angry at these people. Let's recognize that if we were them, we'd want to come here too." That's not amnesty. I'm not for amnesty. I'm not for sanctuary cities. I'm no liberal when it comes to that. I think I am almost as hard-line as, well I was going to say [Tom] Tancredo, but ... I think I am pretty adamant that we ought to obey the law. But my frustration with the immigration issue is not directed so much at desperate people as it is at a dysfunctional government."

[Eric Blair 2084]

"If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. I think conservatism is really a misnomer just as liberalism is a misnomer for the liberals–if we were back in the days of the Revolution, so-called conservatives today would be the Liberals and the liberals would be the Tories. The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom and this is a pretty general description also of what libertarianism is. Now, I can’t say that I will agree with all the things that the present group who call themselves Libertarians in the sense of a party say, because I think that like in any political movement there are shades, and there are libertarians who are almost over at the point of wanting no government at all or anarchy. I believe there are legitimate government functions. There is a legitimate need in an orderly society for some government to maintain freedom or we will have tyranny by individuals. The strongest man on the block will run the neighborhood. We have government to insure that we don’t each one of us have to carry a club to defend ourselves. But again, I stand on my statement that I think that libertarianism and conservatism are travelling the same path".

--Ronald Reagan

Inside Ronald Reagan: A Reason Interview from July 1975

"I haven't thought it through all together in terms of the legality of it. From a health standpoint, heck yeah, it makes sense. There are a lot of things pregnant women shouldn't do. That's just one of them, adding: 'The point is, if you're going to make that against the law you're probably going to have to extend it to all the other things that are equally unhealthy for the child.'"
----Mike Huckabee on his proposed ban of smoking by pregnant women

[Jim Noble]

And Bush II

Yeah, but the evangelicals were actively scammed by Bush and Rove, with Jimmah it was love at first sight.

[WOSG]

Romney is a much better conservative candidate than Huckster is.

[WOSG]

” according to the Arkansas State Constitution, children of all ages, whether legal or illegal are entitled to an education.”

We need to amend the constitution then.

“Huckabee following the logic of the state’s Constitution, supported allowing children of the illegals to attend Arkansas colleges at in-state rates. Bear in mind these are not individuals who came here illegally, but rather the offspring of those individuals.”

Whoever wrote this is completely wrong, and obviously knows nothing about immigration issue.
1. There is no logic that extends frm a K-12 education equity requirement to college. There is no law demanding a right to a college education and no conservative would fall for that.
2. These individuals DID violate the law and came here illegally. If only their parents came and they were born in USA, they would be ‘anchor babies’ and need no amnesty.

This whole article is misdirection.

[spectre]

HUH??

I would say that just about seals his fate..

sw

[kindred]

To: All
Immigration Facts

The Governor opposes and will never allow amnesty.
Governor Huckabee believes that securing our borders must be our top priority and has reached the level of a national emergency.
The Governor supports the $3 billion the Senate has voted for border security. This money will train and deploy 23,000 more agents, add four drone planes, build 700 miles of fence and 300 miles of vehicle barriers, and put up 105 radar and camera towers.
In this age of terror, illegal immigration is not only an economic issue, but also a national security issue.
Governor Huckabee opposed the amnesty bill that was attempted to be rushed through Congress this summer, and opposed the misnamed DREAM Act, which would have put us on the slippery slope to amnesty for all.
Governor Huckabee opposes and will not tolerate sanctuaries for illegals.
Governor Huckabee opposes giving driver’s licenses to those who are illegally in our country and supports legislation to prevent states from doing so.
Governor Huckabee believes illegal aliens who try to vote or try to apply for welfare benefits should be arrested.
Governor Huckabee will stop punishing cities which try to enforce our laws and protect the economic well-being, physical safety, and quality of life of our citizens.
Governor Huckabee opposes and will not tolerate employers who hire illegals. They must be punished with fines and penalties so large that they will see it is not worth the risk or profitable.
Governor Huckabee opposes the economic integration of North America that would create open borders among the United States, Canada, and Mexico.
Governor Huckabee will never yield one inch of American sovereignty.
Governor Huckabee will take our country back for those who belong here. No open borders, no amnesty, no sanctuary, no false Social Security numbers, no driver’s licenses for illegals.
It has been reported that Mike Huckabee supported benefits for illegals immigrants while he was Governor of Arkansas.

Governor Huckabee never supported benefits for illegal immigrants. In Arkansas, illegal immigrants do not receive welfare benefits or food stamps. Governor Huckabee has always, and will always be supportive of the laws and regulations of the country.

It has also been said that Mike Huckabee was in favor of providing college scholarships for illegal immigrants while he was Governor.

The governor only supported the measure that applied to those who met the academic qualifications and applied for legal citizenship. The measure didn’t pass. Governor Huckabee stressed that any student would simply be treated as any other graduate of an Arkansas High School, and not given any special consideration.

Critics say that Governor Huckabee’s motives behind opening a Mexican consulate office in Little Rock was to court illegals to come work in Arkansas.

The Mexican consulate provided Arkansas businesses with access to Mexico and opportunities to expand their markets, and would help further ensure that immigrants from Mexico are legal and better able to secure legal documentation. At the same time, the office would open up opportunities for Mexican investors to invest money with Arkansas partners, which would help create more jobs in the state.

This I beleive, but the liberal republicans want to run a femeinist like Rudy or a big government man like Mitt or a lets get along candidate like McCain. The GOP is now liberal left.