To: arderkrag
What in your mind is torture?
Chopping or sawing off heads?
Being put in a leaf grinder?
Being raped to death?
Starved to death?
What about three square meals a day, clean clothes, your holy book, showers and being able to play soccer?
Tell me what is torture?
36 posted on
11/09/2007 6:46:23 AM PST by
svcw
(There is no plan B.)
To: svcw
You're trying a very cute little tactic here, but it won't work with me. What they do, chopping off heads/etc. is not a basis for how we should act when fighting against them. It doesn't work that way. We should not stoop to their level. Ever. And please, don't even mention that idiotic "then we get chopped off at the knees hur hur hur!!" line of thought.
For the record, I would recommend the definition of torture below (from Merriam-webster.com, second definition 2):
2: the infliction of intense pain (as from burning, crushing, or wounding) to punish, coerce, or afford sadistic pleasure
57 posted on
11/09/2007 6:59:02 AM PST by
arderkrag
(Libertarian Nutcase (Political Compass Coordinates: 9.00, -2.62 - www.politicalcompass.org))
To: svcw; arderkrag
I don't care how you define it, but one must ask the question: which is morally right or wrong...to risk 10's, 100's, 1000's or even millions of lives to protect one or more evil persons? If you think it's morally wrong to waterboard to extract information that can save lives...you need to reexamine your morality. You are justifying the murder of lots and lots of people.
I think the first question you'll be asked (if you make it to the pearly gates) is: why didn't you do something to save all those people? And your response will be: "well, uh, I couldn't God. You see, it would've compromised the integrity of our nation to waterboard that terrorist, it was better to let all those good innocent people die a horrible death. I feel really good about my decision God. In fact, I'd make the same decision again." Do you think God will be satisfied with your answer? Do we really care about you "feeling good" about that decision? Or, do we want to save a bunch of people.
The needs of the many, outweigh the torture of one...Spock said that in the Wrath of Kahn, didn't he? ;o)
63 posted on
11/09/2007 7:03:11 AM PST by
Paco
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