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To: arderkrag

“Torture is torture. It’s always wrong.”

Bin Laden’s buddies have planted a dirty bomb in the city where you live. The FBI has a couple of the gentlemen in custody. They found bomb-making plans and associated debris when they snagged them. The only thing the FBI doesn’t know is where the bomb is exactly but they do know it’s supposed to go off too soon to evacuate all the people who might be in danger. Knowing where the bomb is means they can evacuate those in the most danger first.

Your family is downwind of where the bomb might be.

Tell me you wouldn’t pull the guy’s parts off to save your kid(s). Or, more importantly, tell *them* you wouldn’t do whatever was necessary to keep them safe.


112 posted on 11/09/2007 7:32:54 AM PST by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: PLMerite
Tell me you wouldn’t pull the guy’s parts off to save your kid(s). Or, more importantly, tell *them* you wouldn’t do whatever was necessary to keep them safe.

I have told them. They agree with me. Quite a few conservatives do, as a matter of fact.
124 posted on 11/09/2007 7:36:33 AM PST by arderkrag (Libertarian Nutcase (Political Compass Coordinates: 9.00, -2.62 - www.politicalcompass.org))
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To: PLMerite
Bin Laden’s buddies have planted a dirty bomb in the city where you live. The FBI has a couple of the gentlemen in custody.

But al-Qaeda has not staged such an attempt nor has one been uncovered.

So you are using an entirely fictional scenario, one which has not and is unlikely to occur, to justify the current use of waterboarding and other administrative torture.

It's a straw man. There is not a single instance in which we have used torture currently which falls anywhere near your straw-man scenario.

Maybe you should stop reading those corny Tom Clancy books and watching 24.
145 posted on 11/09/2007 7:42:52 AM PST by George W. Bush (Apres moi, le deluge.)
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To: PLMerite
Tell me you wouldn’t pull the guy’s parts off to save your kid(s). Or, more importantly, tell *them* you wouldn’t do whatever was necessary to keep them safe.

I would delight in going after this guy with a screwdriver and a firepoker, but I am not King. My delight does not define the law.

170 posted on 11/09/2007 7:55:47 AM PST by gridlock (Recycling is the new Religion.)
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