Posted on 11/09/2007 6:14:39 AM PST by RDTF
You wouldn’t do whatever it took to keep that dirty bomb upwind of your family from going off?
C No. 4 - Interesting thread. Some good comments amongst the posturing and in-fighting.
http://smallwarsjournal.com/blog/2007/11/waterboarding-a-political-mane/#comment-891
Comments I made at SWJ
Using chemicals as a short-cut seems to be out-of-bounds.
Why? No pain.
Hey, I don’t know the reasoning behind why chemicals can’t be used in interrogations. They are specifically forbidden under the letter of the US Code. Seems to me that you can achieve similar effects through sleep deprivation, noise & stress positions — which we know are used. It just takes longer.
I suspect mad_as_he$$ can take care of himself. I did not mean to malign him personally, as I’m sure he understands. We should be able to talk about the Vietnam War frankly.
But if you are offended, mad_as_he$$, I apologize for my snarky comment.
I, for one, have interest in both your research and personal observation.
While I also agree with Mr Nance, I base my agreement only on my revulsion for the practice of torture and some common arguments.
“We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men (and rough women, like my National Guard, Iraq vet, M-16A2 expert, Browning .50 caliber M2 preferring, tank and truck mechanic daughter) stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm.”
- often attributed to George Orwell, or Winston Churchill.
Kipling had Tommy Atkins put it so: “Yes, making mock o’ uniforms that guard you while you sleep...”
You know, You’ve got a GREAT idea. We can start using waterboarding as part of any normal police investigation. They just pull in any old suspect and waterboard the crap out of him/her. After all, it’s not torture.
Or better yet, the IRS can use it as part of any audit. It’s not torture and I’d bet that it would increase tax compliance drastically. Since water boarding is messy I’ll bet there are other interrogation techniques we can use that aren’t torture either.
It’s all in a good cause and as long as it makes everyone “safe” then it should be okay. Especially to protect children.
Well, let's not open another can of worms about what "is" and "isn't" torture. As long as waterboarding works, and isn't torture, let's stick with it. As for the mess, all we have to do is build new courtrooms with drains in the floor. A small price to pay for certain justice.
Personally, I'm looking forward to the waterboarding of Phil Spector.
OJ!
It’s torture? Good! Let’s do more of it and start to win this war.
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