Posted on 11/09/2007 6:02:11 AM PST by Reaganesque
was that the next to last flip....or flop?
BTTT
I’m more troubled about Romney`s last minute flip from pro-abortionist to pro-lifer, than I am about Paul Weyrich`s flip from staunch conservative to a lap-dog for Mitt’s campaign.
Slick Willard has a 35-year pro-abortion record. He has claimed to be pro-life for two years. He attempted to dismiss his long pro-abortion history by LYING about Ronald Reagan’s pro-life credentials.
Weyrich, who is dead wrong on the Iraq war and has been from the start, is not much of a conservative anymore.
I don't WANT any supposed "republican" that HAS to "convert" from one position to another for the purpose of appearing more palatable to Conservatives.
I want a leader that has always, in word and deed, BEEN CONSERVATIVE.
I DO NOT trust any of the liberal-media-pushed RINO FAKES.
No politician lacking a clear, consistent conservative philosophy, which Reagan had and a few, like Duncan Hunter, still have, can be trusted. The others are just ambitious egotists and sociopaths who will say anything to get elected.
Lets not forget, Mitt pushing his RomneyCare as nationalized health care for all Americans. More big government. Also his record promoting gay rights and gun control.
Congressman Billybob
Yeah, and if he wasn't a male and if he wasn't a female, He'd look & sound like a President. (Kind of like that's who he is at his basic core)
” No politician lacking a clear, consistent conservative philosophy, which Reagan had ... can be trusted. “
Ronaldus Maximus started out as a Democrat, and became a Conservative and Republican over time by observing and thinking about the world around him. People change. I know this for a fact, because I changed, too. If you can’t accept the possibility of anyone else sincerely adopting your point of view without being born that way, what is the function of reasoned discourse? How will you gather anyone to your cause if you won’t let them in the door? I don’t trust someone who changes positions and says he didn’t, but Mitt will tell you about why he changed his mind.
Judge Mitt as you will; he’s not my first choice, but he isn’t my last, either. I’m just very pissed off with conservatives who won’t let me in because I come to this position by choice, not by birth.
and he has been hunting all his life too. (once or twice anyway)
(as if that had something to do with the 2nd amendment)
Reagan was a Democrat in his youth, and the Democrats then were far less extreme than they became later. The difference between Reagan and Romney is that the former developed a consistent, idealistic philosophy and articulated it in hundreds of speeches over several decades. He didn’t change that philosophy when he decided to run for President, even though Eastern RINO establishment types and political pundits said he couldn’t win because he was too extreme. He came out strongly for Goldwater, even though Barry did go down in a landslide, and was doomed when Reagan campaigned for him. In contrast, all of Romney’s “conversions” have come since he decided to run for President and needed to appease the Republican base. That’s a game which has been played by RINOs repeatedly, at least since the time of Nixon, if not before. Romney is better than Rudy or Hillary; that’s about all.
Let us try to get this straight:
(1) Romney comes from a heritage that is primarily pro-life. = He flipped from a Mormon pro-life perspective when he sided with his mom when she ran as a pro-abortion senator in 1970.
(2) In November of '04, he & his wife had simultaneous pro-life "conversions." = (so since he already "flipped" above, is that a flip or a flop?)
(3) On May 27 of '05, he affirms his commitment to being "pro-choice" at a press conference. = So that would be one or the other, a flip or a flop from his "conversion" 6 months previous.
(4) Then POTUS season comes around. So in '07, just about all his statements are of a pro-life nature. = So, like a fish just reeled in, that tail has him on the other side of where he was 5/27/05.
(5) Then comes his 8/12/07 interview with Chris Wallace of Fox: "I never called myself pro-choice. I never allowed myself to use the word pro-choice because I didn't FEEL I was pro-choice. I would protect the law, I said, as it was, but I wasn't pro-choice, and so..." = That whatever he was from 1970 when his mom ran as a pro-abortion senator & he sided with her, to 5/27/05, w/whatever interruption he had due to a pro-life altar call in Nov of '04, whatever that was...well, he assures us it wasn't a pro-abortion inlook or outlook 'cause he didn't feel "pro-choice..." (So does that make him a life-long pro-lifer?)
Confused? Well don't be: This Harper's Magazine excerpt found at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1921487/posts includes this excerpt:
"Earlier this year, the Boston Globe obtained a copy of an internal campaign PowerPoint presentation that outlined Romneys strengths and weaknesses as he embarked on his presidential bid. One pageentitled Primal Code for Brand Romneyexplained that Romney should market himself as a foil to such Massachusetts liberals as Senators Edward Kennedy and John Kerry, and also run against such enemies as Hollywood, France, and moral relativism. Problems identified by the campaign included the perception that Romney would not make a tough wartime leader and the possibility that voters would be spooked by his Mormon religion. The presentation also acknowledged the problematic view that Romney is a phony and a political opportunist; but that view is due at least in part to the fact that by any reasonable standard its true."
Weyrich: "I take the man at his word. I think he has a lot of ability to present himself to the American public." (Uh, someone call Weyrich's office & relay the above to him, 'cause I think his definition of "present" & Mitt's definition of "present" are two different things.)
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