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When Real Lives Get Swept Into Campaign Rhetoric(Hillary doesn't leave a tip again!!!!)
NPR ^ | Morning Edition, November 8, 2007 | by David Greene

Posted on 11/08/2007 7:08:28 AM PST by mware

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To: Doctor Raoul

The hat was for you.


141 posted on 11/08/2007 12:53:29 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
I am still inclined to send a something, but here is an update.

"UPDATE: The Clinton campaign contacted ABC News to assert that they did, contrary to Esterday's claim to NPR, pay $157 for food at Maid-Rite and left a $100 tip to be split among the staff.

Sensing the story was reaching the tipping point, ABC News' Eloise Harper contacted Brad Crawford, manager of Maid-Rite caught in the political mixer, who said the senator's staff did pay a tip but "it might have not been disbursed properly."

Clinton's Tipping Point?

142 posted on 11/08/2007 1:14:47 PM PST by Enterprise (Those who "betray us" also "Betray U.S." They're called DEMOCRATS!)
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To: Red_Devil 232
The hat was for you.

Really, won't people now see that you have no scar on your head and that your claims that Nixon put a chip in your head are just the rants of a crazed individual.

PS: Mail me a $1,000 and I'll Freep mail you the voice commands that will turn the chip in your head off. You'll like that wouldn't you?

143 posted on 11/08/2007 1:41:52 PM PST by Doctor Raoul (Columbia = Ayatollah U.)
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To: Doctor Raoul

You have been around here to long to be ranting like a DUmmie.


144 posted on 11/08/2007 1:46:23 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: SelmaLee

HRH indeed. Her arrogance shines through eveything she does.


145 posted on 11/08/2007 2:06:30 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: Red_Devil 232
You have been around here to long to be ranting like a DUmmie.

And you'd know one because?

146 posted on 11/08/2007 2:18:47 PM PST by Doctor Raoul (Columbia = Ayatollah U.)
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To: RobbyS

I heard the FDR paid his poker debts by check. Not many people cashed them in because they wanted to keep the check as proof they played poker with FDR


147 posted on 11/08/2007 2:51:41 PM PST by mware (Americans in armchairs....doing the job of the media.)
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To: rod1
Maybe she could have left her a of of Bill’s used underwear

Well if there was any dna left, it might be interesting to test with some of those claims that he father a child by another woman.

148 posted on 11/08/2007 2:54:33 PM PST by mware (Americans in armchairs....doing the job of the media.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Red according to the article the meal was FREE.


149 posted on 11/08/2007 2:55:21 PM PST by mware (Americans in armchairs....doing the job of the media.)
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To: mware
See Post 123 NPR cprrected their original story ... but some don't care to hear the facts (the last part is not directed at you).

NPR Editor's Note: Since this story aired, Hillary Clinton's campaign contacted NPR to say that the campaign paid Maid-Rite a bill for $157 the day of Clinton's visit and left $100 in tip money. NPR contacted Maid-Rite manager Brad Crawford, who confirmed that a bill was paid and tip money was left.

150 posted on 11/08/2007 3:01:26 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Doctor Raoul

I believe the lady. She did not get any tip, and the reporter said the meal was a freebe. Unless this reporter is working for Obama and doing a hit piece on Hillary, Hillarys team stiff the working woman again.


151 posted on 11/08/2007 3:01:53 PM PST by mware (Americans in armchairs....doing the job of the media.)
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To: Doctor Raoul
Because I read the DUmmie FUnnies posted here on FR!
152 posted on 11/08/2007 3:30:11 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: mware

I would like to believe we dislike Hillary for the things she actually does, not the things we wish she did so we can talk badly about her. This story has been thoroughly debunked, which was not known at the time it was posted here, but is certainly known now. Some of the comments on this thread, well... let me just say it hurts our cause, and BADLY, for us to be seen as reactionary and gullible. Are we going to be Hillary’s secret weapon, against ourselves, during the general? Trumping up easily disproved stories, as I said, only damages our credibility. There are lots of real, disgusting things Hillary has done. We should focus on those.


153 posted on 11/08/2007 3:45:47 PM PST by COgamer
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To: COgamer
I have been going on the information that the so called journalist from NPR reported.

So much for checking their sources.

I stand by my tag line.

That being said there are still lots of questions I have about this story.

154 posted on 11/08/2007 3:57:01 PM PST by mware (Americans in armchairs....doing the job of the media.)
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To: mware

“So much for checking their sources.”

Yeah... That’s my thought too... Whatever the real story may be, NPR has failed (as usual) to live up to any standard of journalistic integrity whatsoever.

My comment was posted to you since you started the thread, not in relation to any actual comments you made. I suppose I should have made it to “all” but I’m not entirely sure how.


155 posted on 11/08/2007 4:12:04 PM PST by COgamer
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To: COgamer
Neither Anita Esterday nor the manager on duty that day were available for comment as of noon Thursday.

You would think some curious reporter would want to hear what both these people have to say.

156 posted on 11/08/2007 4:12:22 PM PST by mware (Americans in armchairs....doing the job of the media.)
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To: COgamer

No offense taken my FRiend. Still, I sure would like to hear what the waitress has to say.


157 posted on 11/08/2007 4:14:34 PM PST by mware (Americans in armchairs....doing the job of the media.)
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To: JenB
My wife, daughter, sisters, nieces, on and on have all waited tables at one time or another on their way to other careers. I imagine that there are a lot of us with current or past waitresses and service people in their families. And she thought she was having trouble with the male vote...
If I was waiting on her that loose meat sandwich wouldn't have been that loose.
158 posted on 11/08/2007 10:50:59 PM PST by thunder01
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To: lowbridge

Hillary doesn’t learn from her mistakes.


159 posted on 11/09/2007 4:55:22 AM PST by Peter W. Kessler (Dirt is for racing... asphalt is for getting there.)
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To: All
The waitress is sticking to her story.

Esterday said "nobody got tipped that day," and NPR should have checked with the Clinton campaign before the story aired to see if any tip was left and how it was done. We regret that this was not done. On Thursday, Esterday was sticking by her story.

"Why would I lie about not getting a tip?" she told NPR. She also maintained that her co-workers at the restaurant had not received tips.

A Clinton campaign staffer called on Esterday at the restaurant Thursday after the story aired. The staff member apologized to her and gave her a $20 bill, according to Esterday. The Clinton campaign confirmed that visit. The campaign also produced photocopies of receipts showing $157.46 was paid to Maid-Rite on a VISA card on Oct. 8 for meals consumed by the candidate's entourage. The tip was supposed to have been paid in cash, and the campaign insisted such a payment was made but has declined to make available a staff member who was present at Maid-Rite and left tip money.

Maid-Rite's manager, Brad Crawford, said Thursday that while he was not present at the restaurant on Oct. 8, he knew that a bill was paid by the campaign that day. He also said that he believed three of six servers working that day received tips from people he thought were working for or affiliated with the Clinton campaign.

Crawford said he didn't know if campaign staffers meant "for their tips to be distributed to everybody" or whether they were meant only for individual servers.

The manager said he can't say for sure if Esterday was tipped for serving Clinton and her guests, Christie Vilsack and Ruth Harkin. (Vilsack is the wife of former Iowa Gov. Tom Vilsack and Harkin is the wife of Iowa Democratic Sen. Tom Harkin). But Crawford said he believes Esterday's account that she received no tip.

"Where Hillary was sitting, there was no tip left," Crawford said.

The restaurant has a lunch counter, where Clinton and her guests were seated. Esterday and several other servers were working behind that counter. There are a dozen or so other booths and tables around the restaurant, and other servers were helping diners seated there.

Esterday, speaking to NPR from home later Thursday, said the Clinton campaign staffer who visited the diner apologized to her and said a $100 tip was left on a credit card the day of Clinton's visit. Esterday said the staff member said the money was meant to be shared.

"I explained to her that our credit card machine, you know, doesn't add on the tip," Esterday said. "And she said, 'Well, then, they left a $100 bill there.' And I said, 'Well, it didn't get divided up amongst us, because I had gotten nothing.'

"She just said, 'Well, there was one left,'" Esterday said. "She just kept repeating, 'There was one left.'

After the campaign staffer stopped at the diner Thursday, Esterday said, the $100 tip was a hot topic.

"Two others that had worked with me that day turned around and said, 'We didn't know about any $100 tip,' because they both turned around and said 'We didn't get a part of it.' And they didn't. So, it's like 'OK, where did it go?' That's the mystery question: Where did it go?"

Esterday said it would surprise her if money that was intended to be split among the staff was never shared.

"The ladies that were working that day have been working there for years — some of them for 30 years, some of them for 25 years," Esterday said. "And I've known a lot of these ladies most of my life living here, too. And I can't imagine them pocketing it."

The campaign has made the the tip question the top feature on a new Web site it has created called "Fact Hub." Campaign spokesman Phil Singer said in a statement: "In the minute-to-minute media cycle we live in, we believe it is critical to correct the record in real time."

160 posted on 11/09/2007 9:05:26 AM PST by mware (Americans in armchairs....doing the job of the media.)
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