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Do you consider all federal law to be basically unconstitutional?

No. But I would consider a federal law against murder, enforced by the FBI, to be unconstitutional. And unnecessary. Every state outlaws murder.

Bank robbery, kidnapping, those are special cases that involve federal insurance of funds and crossing of interstate lines that have called for federal laws.

In this case, the first step, is to return the issue to the states. We have much more chance of outlawing abortion in a few states at first and more later and maybe even a constitutional amendment later, than we do of getting a federal law against abortion now.

I'll say this, even if it gets me banned from FR: anyone who honestly believes that there is any chance of a full-fledged federal law banning all abortions, anytime in the next 20 years, is stupid. Just plain stupid. I'm sorry. If you really think that's going to happen, you are stupid.

And if you're willing to ignore all other issues to the exclusion of pushing this single 100% impossibility, then I say again: You Are Stupid.

And FreePoster, this is not directed to you personally. I am using the general "you" referring to anyone who believes that there is any chance at all, in this generation, of passing a major, all-inclusive law at the federal level banning all abortions.

If you get banned then I will get banned with you. You are right. Abortion is not going away. To think otherwise is stupid.

Sad thing is is that you are right. In the over 30 years since Roe the best we have done at a national level was the partial birth bill, something banning an act that was so disgusting it was surprising it took that long. And we have gone no where since

The last best hopes for the pro life movement is to get Roe tossed and then move on to the states, which ironically is what Fred is looking at. It is also good that it seems David Osteen, director of National Right to Life, seems to concur with what Thompson is basically saying.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1922280/posts

If he likes Fred I can't see why other Pro life folks can't do the same, David is mired in it much more than most of us.

Congress is lost, the move for a national bill will have to come from bellow, from the states. With a good majority of state legislatures passing pro life bills the congressmen from those states will have to turn around a look again at the national bill.

I am really discouraged though. When I see people yelling about all or nothing on abortion, I realize they have no grasp on the political realities. Indeed those very well intentioned souls are doing more harm than good. This is a political issue despite it’s moral basis. People do not want to be preached too, they need to be sold.

It is time for new tactics, time to stop fighting about who is right and wrong in their approaches and start working towards saving as many babies as we can as quickly as possible.

Bank robbery, kidnapping, those are special cases that involve federal insurance of funds and crossing of interstate lines that have called for federal laws.

But do you believe it's Constitutionally appropriate for them to be guaranteeing funds, or is it another of those things where they get into health care without authority, then when that mucks things up, they point to the problems as justification for "getting into health care"?