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To: John Valentine

fetuses aren’t people UNDER THE LAW, and never have been.
***Nonsense. Several fetuses have been killed and the perpetrator of the crime has been brought to justice. Connor (Laci Peterson’s unborn baby) comes to mind.


293 posted on 11/08/2007 6:50:51 PM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: Kevmo

It’s true that late stage VIABLE fetuses have been given legal protection in many states. It is also true that a separate crime has been legislated in many jurisdictions making it a crime to harm a fetus in connection with a crime committed against a mother, but again, neither of these examples can be used to counter my statement, because:
1. They are state laws, and that is exactly what we are arguing FOR
2. None of them so far as I know extend protection to the beginning of life in the womb and thues would require some modifyiner to the word fetus, like “viable fetus” or “over 23 week-old fetus”.
What I said was in the context of the 14th Amendment and the use of the word “person” in the United States Constitution - AS IT NOW EXISTS.


295 posted on 11/08/2007 7:01:57 PM PST by John Valentine
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