[Eyes Unclouded]

When we discussed it in 2004 in AP English many people were jealous of the society that was portrayed. Everyone has their place no discontent many drugs and free sex for all. (Of course they would be alphas.)

[jobim]

Have been using this book in World Lit for 4 years, and it speaks with chilling accuracy to students of the world they know is emerging. They feel it in their bones.

[Mrs. Don-o]

Every person endowed with reason knows that you can't use something rightly or intelligently unless you know what it's for. And that's the larger issue: what is human life "for"? If it's just for eating eclairs, getting high, having orgasms and functioning frictionlessly in society, then welcome, welcome Brave New World.

But if the human being is oriented in his mind and heart to seek and desire something beyond that, then being an Alpha is quite beside the point, because meaningless pleasure becomes as intolerable as meaningless pain.

The operative terms are not "pleasure" and "pain." The operative term is "meaning."

[RightWhale]

Everyone has their place

Interesting. We read it in the 50s in the age of conformity. Everybody was the same, acted the same, thought the same, had his place. We didn't like BNW, where everybody was the same.