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Copeland suspects foul play in child's disappearance [Update post 145-Girl's body found]
Neosho Daily News (MO) ^ | Monday, Nov 5, 2007 | John Ford

Posted on 11/07/2007 11:31:44 AM PST by Luke Skyfreeper

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To: Luke Skyfreeper

Well, there you go...that’s it in a nutshell. They made the choice to get messed up.

I’ve heard all of my life that alcohol, etc., reveals the true nature of a person...contrary to what Spears’ mother says. No doubt it impairs judgment, and makes them more prone to accidents, etc., as a result. But, I don’t think it makes a person do things that are truly against their nature. Everyone would do the same things when they are under the influence, if it did. Those things begin in the heart.


521 posted on 11/11/2007 6:49:41 AM PST by LucyJo
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To: McCoMo

Could be.


522 posted on 11/11/2007 7:09:27 AM PST by null and void (No more Bushes/No more Clintons)
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To: Luke Skyfreeper
Pain in her knees. Maybe she had to spend time on her knees, or hands and knees.

I shouldn’t need to draw any further pictures should I?

523 posted on 11/11/2007 7:16:43 AM PST by null and void (No more Bushes/No more Clintons)
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To: LucyJo
One look at the little girl's eyes and fake smile in that photo ...

Not saying she was not abused, but a lot of girls in this age group smile like that in formal pictures. Their permanent teeth are either not done coming in, or have come in crooked, and they are self-concious about it. My 8 y.o. granddaughter has the same sort of smile in her school pics this year, and her teeth are not done coming in yet.

I'd read far more into the statement about 'might have gone to a friend's house in the night', and that the thought of leaving her alone to go out drinking or whatever would be considered 'normal' for the household.

524 posted on 11/11/2007 7:23:41 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: null and void

She was 9. It could also be that she was experiencing “growing pains”. My daughter had them pretty intensely between 9 & 11.


525 posted on 11/11/2007 7:27:35 AM PST by Raebie
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To: null and void

I would think a 9-year-old would need to spend about 12 hours a day on her knees to develop chronic pain...

Apparently there’s a knee-pain condition that some kids get as they grow up. They gradually grow out of it. That seems to me a far more likely explanation for this particular issue.


526 posted on 11/11/2007 8:08:04 AM PST by Luke Skyfreeper
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To: Luke Skyfreeper; Raebie; null and void

Private Message!


527 posted on 11/11/2007 8:14:55 AM PST by elli1
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To: Smokin' Joe
My 8 y.o. granddaughter has the same sort of smile in her school pics this year, and her teeth are not done coming in yet.

I'd be willing to bet that your granddaughter's eyes show more life in her photos.

528 posted on 11/11/2007 8:17:49 AM PST by null and void (No more Bushes/No more Clintons)
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To: Luke Skyfreeper
I would think a 9-year-old would need to spend about 12 hours a day on her knees to develop chronic pain...

If it were only her weight she was supporting on them.

OTOH, growing pains, tweaking them in dance class, arthritis (consistent with congenital syphilis, as discussed w.r.t her teeth), etc.

I fear I may have put too evil an interpretation on that factoid.

Or worse, not...

529 posted on 11/11/2007 8:24:43 AM PST by null and void (No more Bushes/No more Clintons)
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To: LucyJo

Found those comments (the ‘corn product’ poster?) late last night, Lucy. Two posts by that person. Some surface inconsistencies as of now. Her comments could gain weight w/ me as more info from other sources trickles out.


530 posted on 11/11/2007 9:07:43 AM PST by elli1
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To: McCoMo

Nope, no judgements here. I remember when I worked at a hospital and a biker was injured in an accident. All his buddies came in to see him and when they stopped by to ask for directions to his room, it was “Ma’am, please and thank you.” The men, although hard looking, were polite and courteous and caused no problems whatsover. Wish some other visitors were as good.

Some of the women with them on the other hand...THEY scared me!


531 posted on 11/11/2007 9:21:12 AM PST by ktscarlett66 (Face it girls....I'm older and I have more insurance....)
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To: null and void

Oh, my sister had severe knee pain at that age. Google Osgood Schlatter’s disease, that’s what she had. Very common at that age. She outgrew it but it was worrisome until it was diagnosed.


532 posted on 11/11/2007 9:23:07 AM PST by ktscarlett66 (Face it girls....I'm older and I have more insurance....)
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To: ktscarlett66

Thanks.


533 posted on 11/11/2007 9:28:43 AM PST by null and void (No more Bushes/No more Clintons)
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To: Luke Skyfreeper

Lots of new info here:

http://www.neoshodailynews.com/articles/2007/11/11/news/02brother.txt


534 posted on 11/11/2007 10:00:36 AM PST by Raebie
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Jeez, what a horror story.

The poor innocent child, abused and murdered by someone who should have put his own life on the line to protect her.

There’s a very hot space reserved in hell for these two worthless animals.


535 posted on 11/11/2007 10:05:48 AM PST by primeval patriot
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To: Smokin' Joe

I agree with you about the lifestyle. And, I understand what you are saying about pictures. They are only moments caught in time.

I guess I gave in to the temptation to read something into her eyes in both pictures, because I’ve seen that expression in the eyes of other young ones that I knew were suffering abuse. That isn’t always the case though, as you have pointed out, and, of course, conclusions shouldn’t be drawn from an expression in a photograph alone.


536 posted on 11/11/2007 10:16:20 AM PST by LucyJo
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To: elli1

Yes. CTV MB. I think her observations and opinions are an interesting aside to the story, but have no more bearing on the facts of the case than any of the other gossip we’ve heard. She just signed up over there within this month, and has only 2 posts, as you said.


537 posted on 11/11/2007 10:47:04 AM PST by LucyJo
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To: LucyJo
I guess I gave in to the temptation to read something into her eyes

As did many of us, don't feel like the Lone Ranger out there!

538 posted on 11/11/2007 11:32:07 AM PST by null and void (No more Bushes/No more Clintons)
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To: null and void

Thanks. : )

This is just so heartbreaking. Can’t seem to get little Rowan off my mind, even when I know it is fruitless to wish things could’ve been different.

All of this is hearsay, but I’m remembering her sister saying that she had talked on the phone with Rowan a couple weeks before she went missing. Rowan had told her how much she loved her and missed her. Then, a woman who worked with Spears, his mother, and Colleen, at Wal-Mart, told how Spears had said the older sister had to move out because she wouldn’t go by “his rules”. Wondering, if true, if that is what left Rowan at home alone, and unprotected, with Spears while her mom was working the night shift.


539 posted on 11/11/2007 12:32:25 PM PST by LucyJo
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To: LucyJo

It appears to me that Rowan was begging to be rescued by her big sister.

The heating pad...it’s very painful for a 9-year-old to be repeatedly raped by a fat creepy stepfather.


540 posted on 11/11/2007 12:51:26 PM PST by Palladin (Waterboard Patrick Leahy!)
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