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Taiwan ships 1 billion bullets to United States: report
AFP ^ | 06 Nov 2007 | AFP

Posted on 11/07/2007 7:54:06 AM PST by BGHater

TAIPEI, Taiwan -- Taiwan has shipped one billion rifle bullets to the United States for NT$560 million in a rare arms sale to the United States, it was reported yesterday.

The 5.56 mm bullets are mainly used to replenish supplies which have run low after wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, the Taipei-based China Times reported, citing a military source.

Taiwan's defence ministry last year beat off competition from the likes of Singapore and South Korea to win the five-year contract from a U.S. military subcontractor, it was reported.

In a separate deal, the China Times said the Taiwanese Army plans to purchase 60 UH-60M Black Hawk transport helicopters from Washington for NT$71.7 billion.

The US is the leading arms supplier to Taiwan -- something China objects to -- with Beijing regarding the island as part of its territory awaiting reunification, by force if necessary.

Taiwan has been seeking more advanced weaponry amid China's repeated threats to invade.

Taiwan President Chen Shui-bian last week accused China of provoking the island by targeting it with nearly 1,000 missiles.

Tensions between Taipei and Beijing escalated since the independence leaning leader was elected president in 2000. He was narrowly re-elected in 2004.


TOPICS: Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afp; ammo; banglist; bullets; china; taiwan
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To: untrained skeptic
NATO specs do include a steel core round which can't be sold to US consumers

That is incorrect - M855 is available from many sources. I have about 1000 rounds that I got from Cheaper Than Dirt in August when they were selling it for $8/20. Over $10 now, but still available.

101 posted on 11/07/2007 1:10:04 PM PST by green iguana
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To: untrained skeptic

There is no AP ammo ban. You can buy .50 BMG AP, API and APIT if you want (when it’s available.) I’ve bought all three this year.


102 posted on 11/07/2007 1:13:59 PM PST by green iguana
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To: Pistolshot

200 rounds per paycheck


103 posted on 11/07/2007 1:14:24 PM PST by woollyone (tazers...the 21st century version of the rusty bed frame, car battery, & clamps)
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To: Pistolshot
I was told at the shop I work at on weekends that ammo prices are going up 20% by December and another 20% in February.
If you can get primers, powder, and cases, I suggest stocking up now.

any particular reason why the prices are skyrocketing so soon?

104 posted on 11/07/2007 1:17:17 PM PST by Centurion2000 (False modesty is as great a sin as false pride.)
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To: Centurion2000

Materials shortage, transportation costs. Some calibers are real scarce. I’m stocking up on as much as I can on 223/308/3006 ball and any 6.8SPC


105 posted on 11/07/2007 1:28:15 PM PST by Pistolshot ("All you anti-Freds remind me of Wile E. Coyote trying to fool the sheepdog." - Josh Painter)
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To: BGHater

We need ammo independence! Congress needs to subsidize American ammunition manufacturers.


106 posted on 11/07/2007 1:29:44 PM PST by gitmo (From now on, ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.)
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To: green iguana; untrained skeptic
IANAL

"Armor Piercing Ammunition" (a technical, legal term) is banned. See the definition of "Armor Piercing Ammunition" in US code: Title 18, 921 (17).

The manufacture and sale and use in a crime of violence of Armor Piercing Ammunition is prohibited.

I think the provision for determining "sporting purposes" allows BATF to exempt .223 from the APAmmo ban.

Note in the definitions that "Armor Piercing Ammunition" is handgun ammo. Rifle ammo, no matter how much hardened steel it can penetrate, is not "Armor Piercing Ammunition". By definition.

IANAL

107 posted on 11/07/2007 1:29:48 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: BGHater
Now that is what I call "BLOAT"!!!

Is this why copper and lead have been so expensive lately? The Taiwanese were buying it all up?

108 posted on 11/07/2007 1:36:21 PM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: Dead Corpse

China.

A while back, Florida ran out of concrete because of the demand. The boom in China and India has raised the prices of Copper and FE.


109 posted on 11/07/2007 1:39:04 PM PST by BGHater (Lead. The MSG for the 21st Century.)
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To: BGHater
Yep. I was trying to be flippant. Sorry about that...

Ammo pricing, global demand for certain materials, ect... Domestic sources aren't being exploited due to a number of economic factors, most of them artificially brought on due to various forms of government asshattery.

110 posted on 11/07/2007 1:41:30 PM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: BGHater

What the hell is the USA doing importing military bullets


111 posted on 11/07/2007 1:51:35 PM PST by uncbob (m first)
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To: MD_Willington_1976

All the Government has to do is call “ Cheaper than Dirt” they are advertising all kinds of bullets.


112 posted on 11/07/2007 1:55:35 PM PST by BooBoo1000 (Some times I wake up grumpy, other times I let her sleep/)
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To: dljordan
Hollow points are against the Geneva Convention.

If I got anything wrong one of you guys correct me.

Use of expanding bullets in warfare was not banned by the Geneva Convention. They are prohibited by the The Hague Peace Conferences

113 posted on 11/07/2007 2:32:43 PM PST by holymoly
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To: BooBoo1000

I’m actually looking at picking up some 500 rounds of 9x19mm ($69 delivered)from CTD and 500 rounds of 62gr .223 Silver Bear from JGSales for a little over ~$120...

Last time I bought from Wideners, $122 delivered for 500 rounds of 62gr .223 from Barnaul.

You guys want the bottom line of ammo deals, check this link out:

http://gun-deals.com/ammo.php


114 posted on 11/07/2007 2:46:45 PM PST by MD_Willington_1976
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To: BGHater
We are really screwed if we are to the point of importing our ammo during a war!
115 posted on 11/07/2007 3:36:44 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Joe Brower

Ya can’t have too much ammo!


116 posted on 11/07/2007 4:13:00 PM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Joe Brower
Glad I bought a couple thousand rounds of M855 back when Ammomnan had plenty of stock.

Stocked up on the 7.62 Russian at the same time.

I figure if things ever get to the point I need more than 2K rounds for any 'engagement' I should be running instead of shooting!

L

117 posted on 11/07/2007 4:17:25 PM PST by Lurker ( Comparing moderate islam to extremist islam is like comparing smallpox to ebola.)
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To: Unassuaged
"With any luck this will depress the cost of 5.56 ammo. 35-50 cents a round now!

Oh, I hope so. That would offset the high cost of gasoline for some. lol

118 posted on 11/07/2007 4:51:38 PM PST by KoRn
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To: holymoly

“Use of expanding bullets in warfare was not banned by the Geneva Convention. They are prohibited by the The Hague Peace Conferences”

Thanks, I didn’t know that.


119 posted on 11/07/2007 5:08:26 PM PST by dljordan
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To: BGHater

When it comes to technology and science, the press seems to be a bunch of mental defectives. In other words, they are stupid!


120 posted on 11/07/2007 8:58:38 PM PST by punster
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