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To: ponder life
The simple fact that you draw a moral equivalence between the US and China is your first mistake. But such is the way with dummy trolls - always attempting to project the lie that America is no better than a communist run environmental and political hellhole.

No reason to go to war over it, if the US wants to buy natural resources from Africa, they're welcome to it to.

True, but what happens when the PRC stops asking and starts taking? They have their eye on Siberia, the Hainan islands, not to mention Taiwan and a host of other locations. Right now in China, there is a gas crisis whereby the gov. is atempting to get refiners to sell at a loss, in addition to providing subsidies that artificially constrain the prices. This is unsustainable. What happens when they can no longer afford to pay 90-100 a barrel for oil? What if they just decided that some or all of these disputed territories are ripe for exploration, regardless fo what anyone thinks? That is why they are rushing to field a blue water Navy - to protect their shipping lanes as well as fight and win a comprehensive war against anyone (read: the US)

See, dummy, you can actually come onto Free Republic and learn something, as opposed to the venemous name calling that one would naturally find over at DU or Daily Kos. Now run along, Mom will be home soon and she will kill you if she finds you on the computer.
8 posted on 11/06/2007 10:48:40 AM PST by steel_resolve (Think pitch forks.)
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To: steel_resolve
The simple fact that you draw a moral equivalence between the US and China is your first mistake.

Well, it all depends on what standard you are using. Are you talking about sending out doctors to third world countries by individuals and organizations? Yes, America is ahead of China on that. Sending Missionaries and opening schools and clinics? America is ahead there.

Does the average Chinese citizen have the right to bear arms? If you want to use that as a measure, go ahead.

But dealing with dictators to benefit their own country. America has done it. If it's a measure you use to criticize China, shouldn't that measure be used to criticize the US as well?

True, but what happens when the PRC stops asking and starts taking?

There are alot of other countries that China can take from now and they haven't. I doubt China will be agressive in the future since they are not today.

They have their eye on Siberia, the Hainan islands, not to mention Taiwan and a host of other locations.

They have their eyes on territories that once belonged to them. And they will negotiate them back in the coming years.

Right now in China, there is a gas crisis whereby the gov. is atempting to get refiners to sell at a loss, in addition to providing subsidies that artificially constrain the prices. This is unsustainable. What happens when they can no longer afford to pay 90-100 a barrel for oil? What if they just decided that some or all of these disputed territories are ripe for exploration, regardless fo what anyone thinks?

There is plenty of resources to go around. Shortages, for the most part, are man made. Prices of alot of other commodities have gone up, copper, lead, etc. China is continuing to meet market prices.

That is why they are rushing to field a blue water Navy - to protect their shipping lanes as well as fight and win a comprehensive war against anyone (read: the US)

Their naval build up is nothing unique. It's simply reflecting or mirroring their economy. The military, as a percentage of their economy, is no different that the other major powers.

as opposed to the venemous name calling that one would naturally find over at DU or Daily Kos.

I was merely RETURNING the sentiment I received...

9 posted on 11/06/2007 11:40:29 AM PST by ponder life
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