Oh, I agree with you there.
But we've been discussing here whether the author of this article is wrong when he says Fred wants to keep abortion legal at the state level.
And in the quote I gave, it sounds like Fred not only wants the issue decided at the state level ... but if it came to a vote in his state, he would vote against making abortion illegal.
Hopefully I'm just misunderstanding what he said ... but I'd like someone to explain what he meant.
he’d try to “win hearts and minds” whatever that means