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Father of wolf victim relieved to have answers
CBC News ^ | November 2, 2007

Posted on 11/04/2007 10:21:55 PM PST by george76

The father of an Ontario man killed in a wolf attack in northern Saskatchewan says it's a relief to finally have the truth come out.

A coroner's jury in Prince Albert ruled Thursday that wolves killed Kenton Carnegie in November 2005.

The 22-year-old University of Waterloo engineering student had been on a work-term ...

An expert, who prepared a report for the coroner's office, said it was more likely a bear killed Carnegie. But in the end, the jury dismissed that notion, declaring it a wolf attack.

"Kenton was an honest man," he said. "His life was honest, we didn't want his life to be dishonest. We wanted the truth of his death to be made public."

The jury also came up with a detailed list of ways to prevent similar deaths. One of the items on the list included educating the public and people who work in the wilderness to make them aware of the danger of predators, such as wolves.

The jury also wants the province to issue immediate permits to shoot problem animals.

(Excerpt) Read more at cbc.ca ...


TOPICS: Canada; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: animalrights; ar; canada; carnegie; environment; g75; g79; kentoncarnegie; predators; predatory; predatorywolf; sss; wolf; wolfattack; wolfattacks; wolfpacks; wolves
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To: Eska

It’s one of the great anthropological mysteries as I understand it. Why so many of the the world’s big carnivores usually prefer to leave us puny humans be. Really only the Lions, Leopards and Tigers have been known to take up people-eating and that only occasionally. Pumas, Jaguars, Bears, etc. outright predation is extremely rare.

I used to read about man-eaters, ivory hunters and such when I was a kid. Author and adventure editor Peter Hathaway Capstick once conjectured that the big toothy critters can’t stand our smell.

I’ve read enough to know that the arguments over Moose, Caribou, Salmon and Wolf populations are eternal bones of contention in the never-ending Subsistence Wars of bush Alaska. I gather the revelations about the scale of Grizzly/Moose Calf predation are a relatively recent discovery and that Moose populations especially seem to work on a boom-and-bust cycle over the decades of Alaska’s brief recorded history.

Course, depending on one’s perspective it would seem that wolves went from being slavering jawed killers to cute ‘n cuddly “charismatic megafauna” almost overnight (sometime after I stopped reading “Ranger Rick Magazine” apparently).


41 posted on 11/25/2007 7:59:14 PM PST by sinanju
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To: Eska

Black bear are multiplying very quickly in Colorado now. ...four overlapping bear ranges in one place here early last month. They run away or sneak around, when they’re not eating. ...no false charges, yet. They’re very stubborn while eating. We see less than one wolf per year, so far, and only when driving. But we hear them at night once in a while. The blacktail deer are multiplying like flies, so wolves probably also will. The lions puma, mountain lions) kill an elk, leaving feet and bones, every time the elk come through. But the lions follow the elk and don’t stay here (no more tracks or other sign after elk leave).


42 posted on 11/25/2007 9:47:34 PM PST by familyop
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To: Eska

This is on the Rockies in Central Colorado.


43 posted on 11/25/2007 9:50:29 PM PST by familyop
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To: spunkets

Wolves have attacked people in Canada in the recent past. In a Park, a wolf entered a tent, grabbed a child by the face, and dragged him out of the tent.

Fortunately, the parents awakened and drove the wolf away from his dinner.

“When gunpowder speaks, beasts listen” - the lesson of history.


44 posted on 11/26/2007 5:11:10 AM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principle)
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To: george76

“Why do you think that the DOW does not want to admit that there are grizzly bears in Colorado ?”

Because they are suffering “Boulder Dementia Syndrome”?

PS My friend’s daughter described Boulder as “a bubble of Liberalism, surrounded by reality”. Not bad for a freshman at UC Boulder.


45 posted on 11/26/2007 5:14:46 AM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principle)
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To: Jaxter
When I was heading up to AK on vacation (in brown bear country), and asked what I should take with me to defend myself in the event of a bear attack, I was told that anything short of a .375 H&H wasn’t advisable.
46 posted on 11/26/2007 5:20:10 AM PST by LIConFem (Thompson 2008. Lifetime ACU Rating: 86 -- Hunter 2008 (VP) Lifetime ACU Rating: 92)
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To: spunkets

When wolves scent mark human sites, it is safe to say that wolf behavior needs modification.

Bad predator behavior is usually a result of a diet deficient in heavy metals.

An injection of lead cures bad predator behavior, regardless of species.


47 posted on 11/26/2007 5:25:33 AM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principle)
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To: Jaxter

You better kill with the first shot!

Cuz you’re not getting back on target with the recoil from that light weight/high power combo.

I’ve fired it and the Smith equivalent and it’ll rip your finger off if you don’t have 10” wrists and forearms to match.


48 posted on 11/26/2007 5:25:36 AM PST by G Larry (HILLARY CARE = DYING IN LINE!)
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To: rogator

“If the big city folks like the wolves so much, let them reintroduce them in their city parks.”

Exactly!

Let the residents of the Big Sh*tty introduce a pack into Central park. Joggers would record record times, the mugger population would soon be “directly reduced”, cops would spend LOTS more time at the range, - yup, many are the indirect benefits of the “urban wolf pack”.


49 posted on 11/26/2007 5:32:43 AM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principle)
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To: familyop

A bear broke into a condo in Aspen. The woman awoke, entered the kitchen, and was slapped in the face by the bear.

BAD BEAR!!

Colorado seems to be suffering from widespread “Boulder Dementia Syndrome” - their game department is busy “relocating” bears instead of allowing the armed Colorado citizen to solve the problem in the historically proven manner developed throughout America.

PS While Colorado does have an open carry law, in many parks (that means hunting areas, predator home range, etc) the “Open Space Rangers” banned open carry.

The nice “Open Space Ranger” thus exposes the public to the predatory behavior of bear, wolves, and cougar. The “Open Space Ranger” does so by simply posting a NO GUNS sign and Colorado residents thus are stripped of their Unalienable Right to self protection.

“Open Space Ranger” does, however, post another sign suggesting that if attacked, “Fight back, with your bare hands, if necessary.”

Bare hands are necessary - ‘cause “Open Space Ranger” disarmed you!

BAD “Open Space Ranger”! ! !


50 posted on 11/26/2007 5:44:44 AM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principle)
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To: G Larry

I own one and with the cushioned grip it really doesn’t bother me that much. Both my brother in law and my father have S&W .44 Magnums and they kick a lot more.


51 posted on 11/26/2007 8:09:49 AM PST by Jaxter ("Vivit Post Funera Virtus")
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Father of wolf victim relieved to have answers

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52 posted on 12/22/2007 9:46:45 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
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Wolves Suspected in Death of 22-year-old Ontario Man

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53 posted on 12/22/2007 9:51:02 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Jaxter

I'll stick with my 1911.

54 posted on 12/22/2007 9:54:27 AM PST by Stonewall Jackson (The Hunt for FRed November. 11/04/08)
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To: Badeye
I never camp without a firearm.

Me neither. A loaded .44 magnum revolver and one of my rifles is always next to me.

55 posted on 08/15/2009 10:57:03 AM PDT by Mogollon (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -- Thomas Jefferson)
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