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Rancher sees benefit from a fence
Sierra Vista Herald/Review ^ | Jonathon Shacat

Posted on 11/04/2007 8:48:02 AM PST by SandRat

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21 posted on 11/04/2007 10:50:23 AM PST by gubamyster
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To: VOA
But I don’t recall any of the ranchers/farmers I know in Oklahoma, Texas, Kansas or Missouri ever saying that a fence is a bad thing. (well, as long as there are gates which can be used for access with permission of the land-owner!).

Therein lies the problem. The illegals and the drug runners:

Believe not only should there be no gates but that if there are they don't need to open them or even close them. Just hop them, leave them open, or worse yet just run over them.

Permission? They don't need no stinking permission from a thieving GRINGO. They are traversing their own land. Land that was stolen from them and rightfully belongs to them.

Don't believe me, just ask the MeChA/Aztlan crowd.

22 posted on 11/04/2007 11:07:01 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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[snip]. ...But she cautioned that once the Minuteman fence on his land is complete, the drug smugglers will cross the border in a different location and the problem will be shifted to somebody else.
“It’s a pattern that will repeat itself and repeat itself,” she said.
And when the federal fence is completed, things will only get worse. She said that making it more difficult to cross the border will cause the drug smugglers to be more highly organized and more heavily armed. ..
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Exactly why the fence is necessary. It slows down the invaders, prevents large numbers from effectively storming the border, and allows guards to make clean kills.

WITHOUT A BORDER, THERE IS NOT A NATION

23 posted on 11/04/2007 11:12:25 AM PST by skeptoid (U.E., A.A., MBS with Clusters)
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Jim Campbell, who donated $100,000 to MCDC to help build border fencing on private property . . .

I think the MinuteMen are on to something here.

Why not start a national campaign to privately fund certain areas where the Feds won't, or are too slow? With tongue just slightly in cheek, the MM could ask for nationwide donations from citizens, who would then have a sign posted, along with the fence, with the name of the sponsor. Sort of like what you see along the highways where groups sponsor a mile that they clean up.

Great PR as well as an embarrassment to the government. Hell, I'd drop $20, sign or no, just for the tweaking of the non-responsive governments' nose on this.

24 posted on 11/04/2007 12:26:41 PM PST by Oatka (A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: wastedyears

too much dust


25 posted on 11/04/2007 1:13:09 PM PST by colonialhk (Harry and Nancy are our best moron allies)
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To: SandRat

I just tal;ked to my brother who lives in Tucson - a pretty liberal guy - a schoolteacher.

He told me that the Tucson sector captures about 600K a year, a fraction that get across.

Last I was in Tucson, a couple years ago, I made the mistake of shopping in a wallymart. I thought I had entered a store in Nogalas Sonora or Naco. The checkers were bi-lingual - they spoke some English.....


26 posted on 11/04/2007 1:18:31 PM PST by ASOC
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Go to the YUMA Az Wal-Mart and they have to request an English speaker for you.


27 posted on 11/04/2007 1:27:46 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SandRat

No thanks, Yuma is just too hot.


28 posted on 11/04/2007 2:12:05 PM PST by ASOC
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To: ASOC
Like this?

The Devil...

29 posted on 11/04/2007 2:14:50 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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Ray Borane, the mayor of Douglas, said the border should be patrolled in order to protect the country, but a fence across the entire southern border is not the answer to the illegal immigration problem.

That would be cocaine Borane. His brother (former) Judge Ronald J. Borane is doing heavy federal time for cocaine smuggling and their was a major tunnel that went from mexico to a building owned by the Boranes.

Of course HE is totally not biased on the issue of a fence. Sure thing.

30 posted on 11/04/2007 3:47:06 PM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: SandRat

WE DON’T NEED A FENCE !!!!

All that is needed is a line in the sand....step over it and you’re dead. Word gets out and presto....no more problemo!


31 posted on 11/04/2007 4:45:14 PM PST by cowdog77 (" Are there any brave men left in Washington, or are they all cowards?")
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To: Oatka

Good idea...if you don’t mind becoming a target for the drug cartels. The woman in the article spoke as if there’s nothing we can do against the drug-runners due to their bribing and viciousness. That sort of thinking goes against Americanism - getting what’s needed done despite all manner of vile nasties. It can and will be done for preservation, progeny and protection against those determined to recreate Mexico on our soil.

The cartels can buy politicians and police but they can’t buy the American people.


32 posted on 11/04/2007 10:34:40 PM PST by NewRomeTacitus
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To: colonialhk

But they kill engines.


33 posted on 11/05/2007 6:00:55 AM PST by wastedyears (One Marine vs. 550 consultants. Sounds like good odds to me.)
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