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Alive and safe, the brutal Japanese soldiers who butchered 20,000 Allied seamen in cold blood
The Daily Mail (U.K.) ^ | November 3, 2007 | NIGEL BLUNDELL

Posted on 11/03/2007 6:56:30 PM PDT by Stoat

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To: Marysecretary
They were far worse than the Germans.

That is a very very offensive phrase to the Jewish victims of holocaust! There is nothing much more worse than the genocide of the Jews and Armenians! Jewish dead flesh at dead camps were used to make soap! How indifferent you are on history!
301 posted on 11/04/2007 6:30:57 PM PST by Wiz
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To: Fairview
My Dad, a WW II vet, was always adamant about his assertion that dropping the bomb on Japan saved a million American lives. He says he could have been a casualty if the U.S. hadn't shortened the war by dropping the bomb.
302 posted on 11/04/2007 6:35:21 PM PST by Ciexyz
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To: Minutemen

Amen, Bro.


303 posted on 11/04/2007 6:39:56 PM PST by SubmarineNuke (To the Sea I shall return)
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To: dadgum

I don’t think the japanese beleive in god.


304 posted on 11/04/2007 6:44:21 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: Wiz

The term “Japs” is no different from calling African Americans “N*ger”. I hope you don’t use such a racist term again.

I hope youre kidding.


305 posted on 11/04/2007 6:45:32 PM PST by SubmarineNuke (To the Sea I shall return)
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To: Stoat

My dad served on a B17 crew in England, but would never even consider buying anything Japanese. He took a hard look at a VW once, but wasn’t very happy when I bought a Mitsubishi Colt in 1981. It was the only non-American car I have ever owned and it was a d**m good one, went 250,000 miles with no mechanical problems. Other than that, like my dad, I have alway been a GM man.


306 posted on 11/04/2007 7:01:55 PM PST by redangus
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To: NRA2BFree
It's very difficult to look at these pictures. My dad's brothers were killed in the Bataan Death March along with one of my mother's brothers.

I'm sorry for the continuing pain that you (and other surviving victims and victims' relatives) are forced to endure.

I'm sure that you know they all are heroes and our nation will be indebted to their sacrifice until the end of time.

I'm curious, I know of course that nothing can bring them back or eliminate the pain that their unspeakably brutal loss has inflicted upon you and your family for generations to come, but would things have been made just a bit easier for you and your family if there had been more of a forthright acknowledgement of this by the postwar Japanese Governments?  Or would it had made no particular difference at all in terms of your family's ability to gain some degree of closure on this?

From the article:

Felton said: "Most disturbing is the Japanese amnesia about their war record and senior politicians' outrageous statements about the war and their rewriting of history

307 posted on 11/04/2007 8:12:42 PM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: redangus
My dad served on a B17 crew in England, but would never even consider buying anything Japanese. He took a hard look at a VW once, but wasn’t very happy when I bought a Mitsubishi Colt in 1981. It was the only non-American car I have ever owned and it was a d**m good one, went 250,000 miles with no mechanical problems. Other than that, like my dad, I have alway been a GM man.

I completely understand your Dad's sentiments....they were and are shared by millions the world over for entirely valid and justifiable reasons.  Your choices are also easy to understand, particularly in the context of the modern world economy where so many "Japanese" cars are actually built in America by American workers.  If there is a car that would provide the same level of safety as the bigger American cars but it has a "Japanese" nameplate, I might consider it, but it's true, I tend to have a natural bias toward the 'traditionally American' names and I don't expect to change   :-)

308 posted on 11/04/2007 8:32:44 PM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Brad's Gramma
ANOTHER book to buy....bump!

I'm delighted that you're finding it interesting and worthwhile.  :-)

There are a number of excellent books mentioned on this thread....I'm hoping that you might consider some of the others as well, as there's a tremendous amount of superb scholarship on these subjects available now.

309 posted on 11/04/2007 8:39:45 PM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: dsc

They were not ordered to. If they had been, Doenitz would have stretched hemp.


310 posted on 11/04/2007 8:45:33 PM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: Stoat
I've known for years why an older relative hated the Japanese with such passion, he'd nearly bleed through his ears and spit fire when anything about Japan was mentioned.

I'd hate to imagine what he would have done had he seen the Japanese tourists I sighted at the Arizona Memorial. Though they tossed flowers into the waters and voiced prayers for the war dead, I know he'd have killed every one of them, had he been able to get to them.

311 posted on 11/04/2007 8:45:37 PM PST by Thumper1960 (Unleash the Dogs of War as a Minority, or perish as a party.)
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To: muawiyah

What they weren’t [at least for Western prisoners of war] were POW camps.


312 posted on 11/04/2007 8:47:52 PM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: Thumper1960
I've known for years why an older relative hated the Japanese with such passion, he'd nearly bleed through his ears and spit fire when anything about Japan was mentioned.

I'd hate to imagine what he would have done had he seen the Japanese tourists I sighted at the Arizona Memorial. Though they tossed flowers into the waters and voiced prayers for the war dead, I know he'd have killed every one of them, had he been able to get to them.

If you don't mind my asking, would you by any chance be familiar with what he endured at the hands of Imperial Japan and would you be willing to tell us a little about it?

(considering, of course, that this is a family website)

From your description, it sounds as if he was unspeakably brutalized.

 

313 posted on 11/04/2007 8:52:53 PM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: muawiyah
They were internment camps for Jews (mostly)
Get it thru your head, I'm talking about JAPANESE treatment of prisoners.
314 posted on 11/04/2007 8:55:09 PM PST by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: Stoat

He never spoke of what he went through, what he saw, what he knew or what he may have heard of. He was my grandmothers brother, my Great-Uncle I knew he was in the South Pacific from ‘43 to ‘46, in the US Navy, was in “communications” of some sort and made it ashore much more so than the average seaman. He was so tight-lipped that even his wife knew nothing of his war experiences. I suppose it was common, and is common, that those who were there and who made it back are not the sort to complain or to blow their own horns.


315 posted on 11/04/2007 9:05:45 PM PST by Thumper1960 (Unleash the Dogs of War as a Minority, or perish as a party.)
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To: mamelukesabre

I know one who does.

I met him in 1987 in Tyler, TX.

His name is Noboru Yoshida.

He became a christian and was promptly rejected by his family - a very painful thing for him. Still, he continued in his faith, and pleaded with us to pray for his family, that they may come to salvation. We did pray. I have no idea what became of Noboru.


316 posted on 11/04/2007 9:07:35 PM PST by dadgum
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To: Thumper1960
He never spoke of what he went through, what he saw, what he knew or what he may have heard of. He was my grandmothers brother, my Great-Uncle I knew he was in the South Pacific from ‘43 to ‘46, in the US Navy, was in “communications” of some sort and made it ashore much more so than the average seaman. He was so tight-lipped that even his wife knew nothing of his war experiences. I suppose it was common, and is common, that those who were there and who made it back are not the sort to complain or to blow their own horns.

I have heard of similar responses by Veterans from a variety of theaters and eras.  I think that in many cases it's because what they endured was so horrible, bottling it up inside became a self-protection mechanism of sorts, in that it helped to remove the awful memories to the back burner, at least a little bit.

It's also because they're from the pre-Oprah generation, and they know that it's not manly or decent to babble and whimper endlessly about your own problems or bad experiences.

317 posted on 11/04/2007 9:20:16 PM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Wiz; DTogo; ImaGraftedBranch; pissant; Calpernia; imahawk
I don't get your point. How is it propaganda to point out that Japan doesn't teach its descendants the true history of WWII? It's not exactly a big secret that they wash over their involvment in some rather icky stuff, much less Pearl Harbor.

Japanese PM denies "comfort stations" existed.

Whitewashing the Rape of Nanking.

Japanese MPs claim deaths at Rape of Nanking are exaggerated by Chinese

For goodness' sake, it's one thing to try and downplay and rewrite the history. But when some of their victims from WWII are still ALIVE?

318 posted on 11/04/2007 9:46:25 PM PST by Ultra Sonic 007 (Look at all the candidates. Choose who you think is best. Choose wisely in 2008.)
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To: phrogphlyer

Yeah, Waxman to assure there is accountability.


319 posted on 11/04/2007 9:52:54 PM PST by Atchafalaya
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To: Fairview

“The comforting thing I tell myself is, these people will soon be confronting the reality of everlasting hell”

That’s your comfort? You’re out of your effing mind.


320 posted on 11/04/2007 10:59:12 PM PST by jwh_Denver (No I ain't got no damn milk, so quit asking me.)
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