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Alive and safe, the brutal Japanese soldiers who butchered 20,000 Allied seamen in cold blood
The Daily Mail (U.K.) ^ | November 3, 2007 | NIGEL BLUNDELL

Posted on 11/03/2007 6:56:30 PM PDT by Stoat

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To: padre35; diogenes ghost
Years ago there was a TV interview with Tibbets, who mentioned in passing, that his job was an administrative nightmare because he had to plan for a drop on either Germany or Japan.

Other snippets:
1) I read somewhere that a Japanese official told an American counterpart that they surrendered because they didn't want to be bombed a third time. The American replied that we used our last bomb on Nagasaki. The Jap said "If we had known you had only two . . ." and then drifted off as he saw how the import of his statement hit the American, who flushed with anger.
2) Another "I read somewhere" - Right after the war the Japanese decided the best way to handle being A-bombed was to lay a guilt trip on America. Works like a charm in some quarters even to this day.
3) At the Hiroshima monument they have a log for your comments. One idiot wrote "I am ashamed I am an American". The following entry said, "I'm also ashamed that you are an American."
4) My one small shot at the apologists came when a Seattle newspaper printed that there would be a memorial service, on the Hiroshima bombing anniversary, for a young Japanese girl, by name, who was killed there. I wrote them and asked if they were planning to include a tribute to a young American girl, by name, (can't find her name now) who was killed at Pearl Harbor. The reporter wrote back that she wasn't aware that any children were killed at Pearl Harbor - i.e. I must be wrong.

241 posted on 11/04/2007 9:30:05 AM PST by Oatka (A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: Stoat

“Vengeance is mine, saith the Lord”. The devils will not escape!


242 posted on 11/04/2007 9:41:03 AM PST by Doctor Don
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To: muawiyah

Doesn’t end the story, we’ll have to agree to disagree without being disagreeable.

Deal?


243 posted on 11/04/2007 9:43:57 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS: Fake but Accurate, Experts Say)
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To: muawiyah
BTW, I am not a Holocaust denier(separate matter) .
Ask any WW-2 military historians whose prison camps (Japanese or German) you had better odds of coming out of alive.
244 posted on 11/04/2007 10:08:43 AM PST by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: sneakers

It is my understanding that he will stay with the Kittyhawk when she is decommissioned. He told me that he thought that would be sometime in the late spring of ‘08.


245 posted on 11/04/2007 10:45:51 AM PST by Inyo-Mono (If you don't want people to get your goat, don't tell them where it's tied.)
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To: Stoat
The Japs also had a high priority plan for deployment in late 1945. New high altitude long range bombers where to disperse bubonic plague over American cities. The Jap’s gambit was that we, at that time, had no defense against very high altitude bombers. The Japs perfected and used chemical and biological weapons in China on a large scale.
246 posted on 11/04/2007 10:52:01 AM PST by mission9 (Be a citizen worth living for, in a Nation worth dying for...)
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To: ozzymandus

Yep, The intact and fragments of ceramic shell casings are in the big military museum in BeiJing.


247 posted on 11/04/2007 10:59:38 AM PST by StarfireIV ("No society is ever "tolerant", they just switch the targets.")
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To: Bringbackthedraft

They sure did with a little help from the United States Of America.


248 posted on 11/04/2007 10:59:52 AM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

You can take that to the bank for sure.


249 posted on 11/04/2007 11:00:35 AM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: DTogo

Actually, I believe it’s only the Western nations that engage in national soul searching over their past conduct. And it’s definitely only the Western nations which have large numbers of people desiring auto-genocide.

I love Japan and the Japanese people. But the Japanese of the WWII era did some pretty reprehensible things. Atrocities such as Pearl Harbor, Bataan, and Nanking should never be forgotten.


250 posted on 11/04/2007 11:03:48 AM PST by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations (updated!).)
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To: muawiyah
I’ve read a few of your posts, and you’re off quite a bit. The casualty rate for the German submariners was 75%, not 90%, German sub captains were not ordered to commit suicide by sinking their boats at the end of the war, and german subs did not commit wanton atrocities against survivors like the Japanese did. You are regurgitating British propaganda from WW1. Ironic, since the Brits often sailed away and left German survivors to drown. (Bismarck, etc.)
251 posted on 11/04/2007 11:04:22 AM PST by ozzymandus
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To: secretagent

They were not civilians in as much as they were part of the war effort against us.To wipe out the industial might of a nation you must wipe out the man power and we did a damn fine job on both i am proud to say.


252 posted on 11/04/2007 11:05:01 AM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: tjd1454

You panty wearing lib


253 posted on 11/04/2007 11:10:12 AM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: puroresu

I had actually heard a theory about how the Japanese Military changed after WWI. The rapid expansion caused a large influx of people who were more prone to brutality than the average Japanese soldier.


254 posted on 11/04/2007 11:10:41 AM PST by StarfireIV ("No society is ever "tolerant", they just switch the targets.")
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To: StarfireIV

When I said I have called them JAPS, I was not impling that I don’t like them. I like them fine. It’s their boring cars I and some of my friend’s don’t like, so we call them rice-grinders or Jap cars or something like that.


255 posted on 11/04/2007 11:29:20 AM PST by paulweir
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To: ozzymandus

They were far worse than the Germans. I think it had something to do with the fact that at least germans had a more or less christian background but not the Japanese. Their religious beliefs caused them to do these horrific things to others. Like Muzzies, I’m afraid.


256 posted on 11/04/2007 11:30:23 AM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: skr

When I went to Pearl Harbor a few years ago, I met the chaplain there who regularly travels with the Japanese Fuchino (I think that’s the name). He told the story to all of us waiting to go on the memorial. It was amazing. Still tears me up today when I think of God’s grace.


257 posted on 11/04/2007 11:37:48 AM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: Tennessee Nana
It was a well known fact that the Japanese were much worse than the German Nazis, and the chances of coming home alive from Europe were better than an assignment to the Pacific...

Only if you were a POW. 50,000 Americans died in the Pacific Theater, vs 350,000 in the European and North African Theaters. The Germans were both better-armed and better soldiers than the Japanese.

258 posted on 11/04/2007 11:50:38 AM PST by Zhang Fei
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

My second cousin spent time in a Jap prison camp and could never have children. What they did to him was something he could never talk about. He once went to our farmer’s market in the park in town and they were having a display for the bombing of Nagasaki, etc. and boy, he reamed them all a new one for that.


259 posted on 11/04/2007 11:52:54 AM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: tjd1454

Your post is a crock written from the comfort of 60+ years of peace and security.

Those of us who grew up with brothers, fathers and uncles who fought in the pacific have heard first hand accounts from those who where there and those who were waiting for them to come home that ending the war to save American lives despite the cost to the other side was the paramount reason for America’s actions against Japan. I agree with that 100%.


260 posted on 11/04/2007 12:02:38 PM PST by Rb ver. 2.0 (The WOT will end when pork products are weaponized)
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