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Rosenbergs' Soviet spy overseer dies
Yahoo! News ^ | 11/2/07

Posted on 11/02/2007 12:22:55 PM PDT by ckilmer

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To: Red Badger

He had two codenames. The other [either before or after “Liberal”] was “Engineer”. Greenglass was Ethel’s brother, or brother-in-law.


21 posted on 11/02/2007 1:24:06 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: joylyn
Bump.

The Rosenberg File;A Search for the Truth. Amazon link here.


22 posted on 11/02/2007 1:39:30 PM PDT by Leisler (RNC, Rino National Committee. Always was, always will be.)
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To: ckilmer

Bump for later read...


23 posted on 11/02/2007 1:42:59 PM PDT by Mechanically Separated Chicken
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To: Melas

“... Ethyl was truly innocent ...”

Please read posts 14 and 16.


24 posted on 11/02/2007 1:49:43 PM PDT by riverdawg
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To: zot

Ignore this man behind the iron curtain, he didn’t exist, they were never spies. (Sarcasism off)


25 posted on 11/02/2007 1:51:00 PM PDT by GreyFriar ( 3rd Armored Division - Spearhead)
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To: jpl

Handler? You mean to tell me that they were actual spies, putting the lives of millions of Americans at risk? Why thats not what liberals and the NY Slimes says.


26 posted on 11/02/2007 2:00:22 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: joylyn

That is very interesting.


27 posted on 11/02/2007 2:02:55 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: joylyn

Were you a Red Diaper Baby by chance like your co-author?


28 posted on 11/02/2007 2:05:46 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: Melas

“The Soviet archives exonerated Ethyl as well. Julius was as guilty as sin, but Ethyl was truly innocent when sent to her death.”

Fortunately, we have accounts from others involved that put Ethyl squarely involved in the espionage. I would trust facts from the Venona intercepts. I would hesitate to use offerings from Soviet spies standing alone. These men were extremely dedicated and one needs to consider there versions as possibly being cover stories.


29 posted on 11/02/2007 2:22:54 PM PDT by rbmillerjr
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To: ckilmer
Feklisov said Rosenberg was a Soviet sympathizer who handed over secrets on military electronics, but not the atomic bomb. He said Ethel Rosenberg played no part in spying — claims that were consistent with declassified U.S. intercepts of Soviet spy communications.

The "handed over secrets on military electronics, but not the atomic bomb" means to some liberals (that will admit even that much) that the Rosenbergs were not guilty of treason. Of course the atomic bomb is just one of a multitude of military secrets so obviously the Rosenbergs were guilty of treason. And the fact that Ethel didn't procure or exchange information (I believe that was the case) does not exonerate her from the reality that she knew all about her husband's doings and gave material support on a personal/local level.

30 posted on 11/02/2007 2:45:49 PM PDT by torchthemummy ("A Tagline Presidential Endorsement Forfeits A Presumption Of Objectivity")
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To: joylyn

I’m going to presume that you are Joyce Milton. If so- Howdy!

I’ve been meaning to read your book so I ‘ve put it on my list.

If I remember correctly your co-author, Mr. Radosh, had intially believed the Rosenbergs innocent and planned to show so to his satisfaction. Then during the course of his research he learned the truth of their activities and the revelation was a political/reality epiphany. Very similar to David Horowitz in upbringing and eventual enlightenment. I believe it was an interview or article on Horowitz’s Front Page Mag where I read of Radosh’s crash with reality.

Anyhow, nice to meet you in a cyber sense.


31 posted on 11/02/2007 3:01:25 PM PDT by torchthemummy ("A Tagline Presidential Endorsement Forfeits A Presumption Of Objectivity")
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To: GreyFriar

Thanks for the ping. The Rosenbergs were born too early. Treason is now politically correct.


32 posted on 11/02/2007 7:15:54 PM PDT by zot
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Interesting thread to read.


33 posted on 11/02/2007 10:23:03 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (This is "Be an Angel Day", do something nice for someone today.)
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To: zot

Treason, it’s the new black.


34 posted on 11/02/2007 10:34:54 PM PDT by pbear8 (Padre Pio please pray for Tony Snow)
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To: torchthemummy
The "handed over secrets on military electronics, but not the atomic bomb" means to some liberals (that will admit even that much) that the Rosenbergs were not guilty of treason. Of course the atomic bomb is just one of a multitude of military secrets so obviously the Rosenbergs were guilty of treason.

They weren't convicted of treason. Just espionage. They re the only two Americans ever executed for espionage in peacetime; if it the prosecution had the information then that we have now, they would still have been convicted, but I doubt they would have gotten the death penalty.

35 posted on 11/02/2007 11:31:42 PM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: ckilmer


"Progressive" has always been a code work for Commie

INFAMOUS SELF-DESCRIBED "PROGRESSIVES"

JULIUS AND ETHEL ROSENBERG

CONVICTED & EXECUTED AS SOVIET SPIES


36 posted on 11/02/2007 11:52:08 PM PDT by Cincinna (HILLARY & HER HINO :: Keep the Arkansas Grifters out of the White house.)
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To: ckilmer

“Feklisov died Oct. 26, said Sergei Ivanov, a spokesman for the Foreign Intelligence Service, one of the successor agencies to the KGB. He gave no cause of death.”

Gave no cause of death? Could it have been a bullet to the back of the head in the basement of the Lubyanka?

Do they still do that? Just wondering.


38 posted on 11/03/2007 12:02:38 AM PDT by Robwin
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To: Melas

In a conspiracy, every participant in the conspiracy is as guilty as the one who actually commits the act.

Ethel recruited her own brother for Julius’ spy ring, and Ethel typed up Julius’ notes that were handed over to the Socviet agent.

Had she cooperated with the FBI, her life would have been spared. They were pressuring her to get to Julius, and the other members of his spy ring. She was proudly defiant and refused, even when faced with the gloomy future of her two little boys.

A woman who loved Stalin more than she loved her own children and her own country.


39 posted on 11/03/2007 12:04:11 AM PDT by Cincinna (HILLARY & HER HINO :: Keep the Arkansas Grifters out of the White house.)
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To: Cincinna

All material from the New York Times must be properly excerpted and have a working link.

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40 posted on 11/03/2007 12:04:15 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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