And where are they to bring it cman when all the doors are closed to them. When to mention "design" is career suicide.
I've always felt you are an honest observer and respect the way you defend your position, however, perhaps the adherents of your position could benefit from some sincere self examination.
The acadamie is held in low regard, and science, heretofore above the fray, is being dragged down w/ it. The same ostracization that is heaped on ID is being heaped on critics of climate change. The same iron grip. The same "junk".
The only thing evil needs to triumph is for good men to do nothing.
And where are they to bring it cman when all the doors are closed to them. When to mention "design" is career suicide.
Perhaps there has not been sufficient evidence presented of a "designer." In the mean time, science has accumulated a huge amount of evidence, while dealing with the natural world, that suggests evolution could have occurred naturally.
I've always felt you are an honest observer and respect the way you defend your position, however, perhaps the adherents of your position could benefit from some sincere self examination.
Appreciate the compliment.
The acadamie is held in low regard, and science, heretofore above the fray, is being dragged down w/ it. The same ostracization that is heaped on ID is being heaped on critics of climate change. The same iron grip. The same "junk".
But there is a difference here. There is evidence either for, or against, the idea of man-made climate change. Like ID, the idea of man-made climate change has been largely pushed by political means. But in the case of man-made climate change, the scientists who oppose the idea are beginning to be heard, and the whole thing is going to crumble in a couple of years.
ID, on the other hand, is really a religious idea masquerading as science. The whole sordid scheme was laid out in the Wedge Strategy, a planning and fund-raising document which unfortunately leaked from the Dyscovery Institute. For additional evidence of this, just use the Wayback Machine and look at the DI website in its early years.
Or, here is a good blog on the subject: Uncloseting the Discovery Institute: The IDea that Dare Not Speak Its Name (Part 1).
You know, I did some post grad work in a few fields, and saw how much cult and personality driven some of it was, and these were all science fields. There are many reasons people don't get a PHD in some areas, for one maybe they think it is junk.
I wonder if the academics with an agenda really understand just how much of their learning is regurgitated back to them, and then tossed away like the garbage it is just to get the sheepskin.