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To: doc30

How sorry do I need to feel for a woman who placed herself in the position in the first place.

The men are animals, sick, twisted and disgusting. But in this case, so is the victim. She asked for it.

Look, I never would place myself in that situation. When do women actually need to be responsible for their own actions.

What she did is kinda like playing Russian Roulette. She loaded the gun, she placed it in her mouth, she may not have meant to pull the trigger, in fact at the last minute she changed her mind, but the gun went off. How much is her death her fault and not accidental?


23 posted on 11/01/2007 5:47:03 AM PDT by colorcountry (The blood of Christ will never wipe that out, your own blood must atone for it - Brigham Young)
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To: colorcountry

Let me fill you in on something.....it’s not a perfect world, and people do not always do what they should. This does not mean they should be GANG RAPED!


27 posted on 11/01/2007 5:48:28 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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To: colorcountry

No one asked anyone to feel sorry for her. Your reasoning is beyond strange, it’s scary.


48 posted on 11/01/2007 6:13:48 AM PDT by Shimmer (Lord, help me to be the kind of person my dog thinks I am.)
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To: colorcountry
How sorry do I need to feel for a woman who placed herself in the position in the first place.

You are spot-on. Determining each person's accountability in this situation includes this question: "In whose care, and under whose authority are you willingly placing yourself, and to whom are you granting access to the body God gave you?"

Protecting an individual woman against an individual man's intentions is a huge undertaking for the rest of society, and doing justice is complicated by subtleties, mixed motives, changes of heart, dishonesty, betrayal, and all the other vagaries of the human spirit. That is why, until the 1970s (if I recall correctly), a man could not be prosecuted in any state for "raping" a woman whom he had legally married. She consented to be his wife, and enjoys a legally enforceable right of support from him—therefore, she knew sex was part of the bargain.

And claims of rape in other circumstances were looked at in light of whether the woman had taken reasonable measures to protect her virtue. In far less serious matters, the logic of this is understood: Your insurance company, if you want them to pay for a stereo stolen from your house, demands two things: 1) proof that the stereo was not the property of the "thief," through sale or gift; and 2) some sign of forced entry.

A woman is accountable for the company she keeps because, even though she is the weaker party, in the larger sense, she is not. We are all there—the rest of society, with armed police—to intervene, through measures we would extend to protect a grown man. Her side of the compact is that she will not call on our aid for capricious reasons, and that she treat the gift of life-creation God gave her as something worthy of respect and protection. A prostitute is taking this gift, which has the power of changing history itself, and selling it cheaply. That is why society at large is disinclined to value it more highly than she herself is wiling to do.

I'm not a lawyer, but I suspect that in earlier decades, the woman in this case would have no standing to file a criminal complaint in this situation at all. This does not mean I endorse what was done to her. The men are thieves, brutes, and fornicators. But if an adult refuses to protect herself, it is impossible to protect her.

53 posted on 11/01/2007 6:26:51 AM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: colorcountry
"How sorry do I need to feel for a woman who placed herself in the position in the first place."

Certain amount of exactitude needed her. Placed herself in what position?

95 posted on 11/01/2007 7:22:44 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("He who is not angry when there is a just cause for anger, sins." Augustine.)
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To: colorcountry
But in this case, so is the victim. She asked for it.

She ASKED FOR gang-rape and at gunpoint?!?

Some supposedly religious folk truly do relish punishing others they see as "lesser". They're neither good Christians, nor good Americans. They love using their faith and voice/vote to injure others so they can continue to sanctimoniously feel superior.

I can only hope that those who so adore meting out pain to others do not get their come-uppance someday.

(I recall a few stories about Christ and prostitues... but I missed the verses where he advocated for their gang rape, and told them that they got what they asked for.)

105 posted on 11/01/2007 7:28:29 AM PDT by Teacher317
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