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Felons buying deer hunting licenses even though they can’t own guns
New Richmond News ^ | 10-31-07

Posted on 10/31/2007 4:47:59 PM PDT by SJackson

At least 77 felons bought Wisconsin deer hunting licenses last year even though it’s illegal for them to ever have guns.

The actual number is probably a lot higher.

The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel says only one in five hunters allow their names to be released, which means the paper could only check the criminal records of a relative few.

The Department of Natural Resources picks up few of those felons. Only about 20 were caught last year.


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To: SJackson; LibreOuMort
Thanks for the links! I thought that might be an atlatl.

It's hard enough as it is to get near enough to deer to get a clear shot with a rifle, muzzle loader or bow and arrow. Stalking deer, among the spookiest of God's creatures, and getting close enough to toss an atlatl at one is going to prove to be almost impossible.

Not in my front yard! They move away if I throw a few stones at them, but otherwise they keep munching on the roses.

Hmmm... venison, right from the front garden...

And no newly-semi-rural liberal neighbors upset by the sound of gunfire. *\;-)

21 posted on 10/31/2007 5:15:06 PM PDT by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: SJackson

Buying a license contributes to the entire hunting cause. Nothing wrong with buying a license, imo, unless you see some sinister effect. Some of these felons have to be mainstreamed back into civilized society.


22 posted on 10/31/2007 5:22:46 PM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: sionnsar

Get a large dog...something high strung and wiry and a strong instinct for game...like a german shorthair or a viszla, a coonhound, or mountain cur. Then whenever you see the deer, let the dog out. It’ll chase the deer for about a quarter mile before the deer get bored and decide to lose the dog. Personally, I’m partial to red colored dogs. I’d go for a Viszla, or a redbone coonhound. I currently have a red lab. She loves to chase the deer out of my yard.


23 posted on 10/31/2007 5:36:19 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: tet68

“There certainly must be criminal fisherman too!”

They’ll get my rod when they pry it from my cold, slimey, dead hand!


24 posted on 10/31/2007 5:36:33 PM PDT by Roccus (Someday it'll all make sense.....maybe.)
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To: LibreOuMort
Hmmm... venison, right from the front garden...

Can I put an atlatl on my Christmas list? Not very Scottish, but it beats golf clubs... *\;-)

25 posted on 10/31/2007 5:38:57 PM PDT by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: SJackson
At least 77 felons bought Wisconsin deer hunting licenses last year even though it’s illegal for them to ever have guns.

If they had evil intent then they wouldn't have bought the licenses........

I feel strongly that if anyone has served their time then they should be afforded the same rights they had before they committed their crime. If you want to deny them their rights then you keep them behind bars............

My opinion is based on my neighbor who is the greatest neighbor in the world and one of the nicest guys you would ever meet. He is also a convicted murderer who served his time...........

26 posted on 10/31/2007 5:49:19 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (I could be Agent "HT")
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To: SJackson

I think it’s because they know the ranger just checks their license, and doesn’t run anything for wants & warrants.


27 posted on 10/31/2007 5:54:35 PM PDT by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

I happen to know a few felons and I believe their rights should be fully restored when their time with “The System” is completed.


28 posted on 10/31/2007 5:54:47 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: SJackson
IMHO there are many different classes of felons.

It should be decided by the Judge and Jury at conviction if the crime would ever exclude them from using a gun for hunting purposes.

In many areas hunting is a big part of mainstream life and shouldn’t be used to exclude a nonviolent person that has payed their debt and is trying to rejoin society.

29 posted on 10/31/2007 5:57:14 PM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: SJackson
...rapists were among those in the woods last year, creating possible tension and maybe violence.

not to mention, ruining the meat.

30 posted on 10/31/2007 5:59:28 PM PDT by kaboom
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To: sure_fine
I think in most states felon can hunt with black powder

And let's not forget bow hunting

31 posted on 10/31/2007 6:02:58 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (When injustice becomes law, rebellion becomes duty)
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To: Beagle8U
In general I'd agree with you. While I'm OK with denying gun ownership to violent felons, maybe forever or for a period of time, they pose a societal risk of violence, many felons don't. Ideally there'd be a review, which many states have, but I understand federally that's been shut down since early in the Clinton years.

Here in Illinois, if you check in for inpatient drug or alcohol rehab, for a month or a day, you lose your gun rights for five years. They can be recovered through an appeal process, but talk about a disincentive for getting treatment.

32 posted on 10/31/2007 6:03:21 PM PDT by SJackson (every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and figtree, none to make him afraid,)
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To: Panzerfaust

Yep that is true. Whoever posted this should have looked into that. A bow is not considered a firearm.


33 posted on 10/31/2007 6:04:29 PM PDT by lndrvr1972
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To: sure_fine
I think in most states felon can hunt with black powder

Not in Wisconsin, that requires a gun tag.

34 posted on 10/31/2007 6:08:42 PM PDT by SJackson (every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and figtree, none to make him afraid,)
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To: mamelukesabre

I agree the 2nd ammendment says nothing about being a felon and owning a gun. I admit a convicted felon could mean anything. There are plenty of felonies that are committed that do not involve a firearm. So here is a scenario I just stole several thousands from a retirement fund but no weapons was used am I excempt from owning a firearm?
But if I rob a bank,convenient store yes I should be prohibited from owning one.


35 posted on 10/31/2007 6:10:39 PM PDT by lndrvr1972
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To: SJackson

The point is...anyone can buy a black powder firearm. THere are no background checks. THere is no waiting period. THere is no license or permit required. I think a sixteen year old can purchase a black powder colt navy revolver. They don’t check your reccord. Therefore, if a felon is buying a gun tag for deer and hunting with a black powder firearm, he may or may not be breaking any rules.

If anyone can buy a black powder firearm, shouldn’t anyone be allowed to hunt with black powder? If not, there appears to be a contradiction in the rules of purchase vs the rules of use. Do you agree?


36 posted on 10/31/2007 6:24:11 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: purpleraine
Photoshoot.

No license required.

37 posted on 10/31/2007 6:27:05 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: 5Madman2
Non-violent felons can in some cases use long guns for hunting after a certain amount of time has passed after they serve their term. (I believe in TX it’s 5 yrs after the completion of all the term, parole probation etc.) They must apply to the state for the exception. I am unsure if they can own the guns or just possess them for hunting purposes.

Federal law prohibits them from owning or possessing, regardless of state law.

See NRA Federal Gun Law summary

The following classes of people are ineligible to possess, receive, ship, or transport firearms or ammunition:

* Those convicted of crimes punishable by imprisonment for over one year, except state misdemeanors punishable by two years or less.
* Fugitives from justice.
* Unlawful users of certain depressant, narcotic, or stimulant drugs.
* Those adjudicated as mental defectives or incompetents or those committed to any mental institution.
* Illegal aliens.
* Citizens who have renounced their citizenship.
* Those persons dishonorably discharged from the Armed Forces.
* Persons less than 18 years of age for the purchase of a shotgun or rifle.
* Persons less than 21 years of age for the purchase of a firearm that is other than a shotgun or rifle.
* Persons subject to a court order that restrains such persons from harassing, stalking, or threatening an intimate partner.
* Persons convicted in any court of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence.

Persons under indictment for a crime punishable by imprisonment for more than one year are ineligible to receive, transport, or ship any firearm or ammunition. Under limited conditions, relief from disability may be obtained from the U.S. Secretary of the Treasury, or through a pardon, expungement, restoration of rights, or setting aside of a conviction.

Note: "punishable by", not "punished by". Actual sentence doesn't matter, only maximum allowable.

38 posted on 10/31/2007 6:38:51 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Beagle8U
In many areas hunting is a big part of mainstream life and shouldn’t be used to exclude a nonviolent person that has payed their debt and is trying to rejoin society.

Gun grabbers don't care about any of that. Most of 'em find hunting abhorrent anyway. They probably think it's a nice side effect of gun grabbing.

39 posted on 10/31/2007 6:41:28 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato

I just think that there are felons that wouldn’t be a problem hunting.


40 posted on 10/31/2007 6:47:36 PM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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