[Steve_Seattle]

"It's just not the same country anymore."

When libs make idiotic statements like this, I wonder what they miss about the old America whose demise they are lamenting. Do they miss slavery? Jim Crow? Wars where we lose hundreds of thousands of American soldiers? Dropping atomic bombs? Rounding up Japanese-Americans into concentration camps? 60 hour work weeks? Do they want to bring back anti-sodomy legislation? Deny women the right to vote? Deny naturalization to non-whites? To what point in our idyllic, pre-Bush past do they want to return?

[Kirkwood]

I think think they want to live forever in the clinton era, although some of the older ones would go back to the Kennedy era just so they can re-live the 60s.