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To: Cicero

Another reason why I’ve left christanity. Every church nowadays seems to be run by these whackjobs.


4 posted on 10/31/2007 9:29:00 AM PDT by utherdoul
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To: utherdoul

Try the Presbyterian PCA.....


5 posted on 10/31/2007 9:33:23 AM PDT by goodnesswins (Being Challenged Builds Character! Being Coddled Destroys Character!)
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To: utherdoul

Have faith.

Many - not all - of the individuals who take such a point of view are not ruled by a spiritual connection, but by pride. I believe many of them like to take on this position as a means of feigning moral superiority. Certainly, this is not Christian.

My church favors respect for all life, even that of murderers. I would agree with this teaching if it could be ensured that such criminals would never harm others again. As there can be no such accommodation I feel comfortable with capital punishment - as long is the convicted are beyond the shadow of a doubt.

Conversely, when such criminals are put to death, I don’t believe that it should be done out of a sense of vengeance. To do so would to become like the murderers. It should be a cool, simple and intellectual matter of law.

The thing that really gnaws at me about such debate is that it seems that some Christians appear to give a higher degree of attention to the value of the life of the criminal, rather than to that of the innocent and the victim.

I see this attitude more of being “liberal” than it is being “Christian”. I certainly don’t like to put myself in a position to quantify the faith of another. Yet, I don’t understand it and while I used to strain to grasp such a mindset, I no longer wish to come to an understanding. I see such a worldview simply as foolishness, which through the grace of God, I will never be able understand.


9 posted on 10/31/2007 9:59:23 AM PDT by incredulous joe ("Whoeverso loveth me loveth my hound." - St. Thomas More)
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To: utherdoul

It’s not Christianity that’s at fault. It’s trendy clergy, who don’t have much idea of what tradition, the creeds, or the Bible have to say.

Secular liberalism infects many of the mainline churches, and parts of the Catholic Church, but it’s not real Christianity, in my view.


19 posted on 10/31/2007 12:13:15 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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