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'I got angry,' says Olive Branch man who followed, shot mother's carjacker
Memphis Commercial Appeal ^ | 10/30/7 | Toni Lepeska

Posted on 10/30/2007 7:35:36 AM PDT by SmithL

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To: Tennessean4Bush
I agree.

IF

the law allowed people to carry around guns for protection, I'm sure the crime rate would go down in this country.

Gary
WatchingHillary.com

61 posted on 10/30/2007 8:38:16 AM PDT by GaryLee1990 (www.WatchingHillary.com)
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To: Valpal1
"I wonder how such an argument would be received by the courts? Probably not very well, but it’s certainly worth arguing."

I would love to argue this case in front of a jury trial. Their 70 year old mother/grandmother, looking down the barrel of a shotgun while being carjacked and no one to help them because 'hired help' wasn't available. Just let him go until he gets the next mother/grandmother, maybe then there will be hired help around.

Remember 20-25 years ago when that young woman was being raped and murdered in the street of NYC and hundreds, if not thousands, of people heard her screams or watched and did NOTHING?

62 posted on 10/30/2007 8:39:44 AM PDT by moonman
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To: wastedyears; org.whodat; SmithL
The article said he has his permit for Mississippi, but it took place in Tennessee.

There's a reciprocity agreement among states allowing valid concealed gun permit holders to carry in any of the participating states.

63 posted on 10/30/2007 8:40:41 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: SmithL

This guy deserves a medal.

But the government (COPS) don;t like competition - even they are doing their customary miserable job of harassing motorists instead of chasing the bad guys.


64 posted on 10/30/2007 8:40:50 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: L98Fiero
Why buy that

Take a look at the KelTec PF9, as small or smaller than the PPK/s and fires a full patch 9x19 - you can even use +P upon occasion if needed. I know, some folks look down on the piece, but it is one of the smallest carry pistols with 9mm ammo. I'm just saying - worth a look.

65 posted on 10/30/2007 8:48:30 AM PDT by ASOC
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To: Orange1998
Gray has a Mississippi gun permit but the shooting was in Tennessee.

Oops!!

Tennessee has reciprocity with Mississippi on gun permits, including CCW.

He fired at the guy after the guy pointed a shotgun at him.  He only fired again, when the guy didn't have the shotgun, when the guy got up and came at him.

100% self defense.

Citizens have to take responsibility for their own safety and for enforcing the laws.  We can never have enough cops with enough power to protect us without it becoming a police state.  The important part of the second amendment is the first part:

A well-regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free state,

At the time this was written the "militia" was well understood to be the male citizens of the area.  Period.  And to preserve a "free state" they have to take responsibility for the common defense and for enforcing the laws.  Recognizing the possibility of excesses, the "vigilante" fear, the militia should be "well regulated," which I interpret to mean "trained and led" by professionals.  And in order for the well trained and properly led group of citizens to be effective:

the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

I have no problems with firearms laws that require marksmanship and safety training or even require training on applicable laws.  In fact I think it's the way we should go, so long as we can be sure that those firearms laws aren't written so that the training is somehow prohibitive, such as costing an obscene amount or requiring a ludicrous test for passing. 

66 posted on 10/30/2007 8:55:17 AM PDT by Phsstpok (When you don't know where you are, but you don't care, you're not lost, you're exploring!)
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To: SmithL

Wait a second....his mom was safe, and then he still chased the guy and got into what amounts to be a running gun fight in public?

Damn right there ought to be charges.


67 posted on 10/30/2007 8:57:30 AM PDT by Grunthor (Christmas is a time when people of all religions come together to worship Jesus Christ.)
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To: org.whodat

Feel better now?


68 posted on 10/30/2007 8:58:57 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (Don't taze me, bro!!)
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To: Rick.Donaldson

I live in Missippi, just the next town west of this one. We have the “Castle Doctrine” here to protect life and property.


69 posted on 10/30/2007 9:01:56 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (Join me for the Million Minutemen March --- Summer 2008!!)
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To: 17th Miss Regt
Two in the chest, one in the head, shoot the F’er till he’s dead.
70 posted on 10/30/2007 9:03:02 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Illegal Immigration, a Clear and Present Danger.)
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To: TommyDale

cite and release him for failing to finish the job


71 posted on 10/30/2007 9:05:40 AM PDT by purpleraine
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To: Rick.Donaldson; dbwz

Or, how about this....Mom & Dad are living with the son??? It’s a possibility.


72 posted on 10/30/2007 9:07:44 AM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: purpleraine
"cite and release him for failing to finish the job"

Exactly!

73 posted on 10/30/2007 9:29:23 AM PDT by TommyDale (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: Badeye

I also shot 150 rounds last weekend.Took about a minute and a half.The MP-5 really can go through some ammo.


74 posted on 10/30/2007 9:38:52 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (168 grains of instant conflict resolution)
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To: moonman

Kitty Genovese

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitty_genovese


75 posted on 10/30/2007 9:43:17 AM PDT by endangeredfaces
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To: endangeredfeces

Thanks for the article. I thought it was a lot more than 38 who heard the screams.


76 posted on 10/30/2007 9:48:11 AM PDT by moonman
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To: SmithL

Investigators were sympathetic to Gray’s emotional state, caused by seeing a gun at his mother’s head, but weren’t eliminating the possibility that he could be charged with a crime for taking the law into his own hands.
***That’s one Jury Notice I would respond to. Not Guilty. Oops, said it too soon.


77 posted on 10/30/2007 9:50:17 AM PDT by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: Farmer Dean

‘I also shot 150 rounds last weekend.Took about a minute and a half.The MP-5 really can go through some ammo.’

I bet.....(chuckle)

I was shooting a Ruger and a S&W, both 9 mm.

This weekend its shotguns, and rifles...in addition to some more work with the pistols. I’ve kinda gotten away from practice the past few years, and am now ‘back at it’.


78 posted on 10/30/2007 9:56:54 AM PDT by Badeye ('Ron Paul joined 88 Democrats.....")
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To: fatnotlazy
"Once she got away from him, I got angry," said Gray, who is in his 40s.

From the story, dod you have a reading problem?

79 posted on 10/30/2007 10:28:22 AM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: gridlock

Yep.

The rule of the “Three S’s” can be abbreviated, but should always include “Shut Up” ;)


80 posted on 10/30/2007 10:29:15 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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