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It has always been this way for Schuller. In his book, "Self-Esteem, The New Reformation", Schuller says, "Man is not bad, he is simply badly informed about how good he is. Jesus would never call man a sinner. Jesus did not die for our sins, he died to sactify our self esteem."

WOW, I had no clue, so this guy is Biblically ignorant or filled with strong delusions....

Isaiah 64:4 For since the *beginning* of the world 'men have not heard, nor perceived by the ear, neither hath the eye seen, O GOD,(Elohim) beside Thee, what He hath prepared for him that waiteth for HIM.' (quoted in ICor.2:9)

verse 6 then says "But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away."

I don't know if Schuller is biblically illiterate. I believe he presents 'another gospel'....the gospel of SELF. Jesus said to the rich young ruler...."deny self, take up the Cross and follow me." Schuller preaches another Jesus. He declares we need a new reformation....that the Reformation, and the reformers were inadequet with their cry across Europe..."SOLA SCRIPTURA"...only the scripture. Men like Hugh Latimer, Bishop and Martyr, who, upon being determined to be a heritic to the catholic church, Bloody Mary ordered him burned. His last words before being burned at the stake was to another bishop, Nicholas Ridley, saying, "Be of good cheer, Master Ridley, and play the man, for we shall this day light such a candle in England as I trust by Gods' grace shall never be put out."

So Schuller denegrates the Martyr Latimer who was burned alive at the stake for Christs'sake and says the Reformers were wrong...Sola scriptura was inadequet....we need a new reformation of self esteem, self agrandizement, self actualization, and I say self ad nauseum. Jesus said SELF was the very problem. But Schuller and his tribe offer a new reformation, an improved reformation, a delusion of Self idolotry. God have mercy on this country, born from the caldron of the reformation, only to turn to idols. It is an all too familiar refrain.

SOLA SCRIPTURA, Sola CRIST.