E-mails illustrate Huckabee strategy (on Smoker Ban)

Arkansas Democrat Gazette ^ | May 7, 2006 | SETH BLOMELEY

[freeangel]

It would appear I’m not a fortuneteller after all.

[pissant]

Funny thing is, the marketplace was taking care of the smoking/no smoking issue. My favorite pubs to eat were non smoking. But the cigar bars were nice for a nightcap. The flippin nanny staters need to FO.

[pissant]

That’s not you, Miss Cleo?

[383rr]

“There’s no way I’ll vote for this POS even if he’s on the ticket for VP.”

B U M P

[ari-freedom]

well the taxes are just an excuse to raise more revenue. if they are raised too high to reduce smoking, they don’t get the revenue and most smokers will find ways to avoid the tax. It’s a pretty dumb way to get people to quit an addiction.

[Eric Blair 2084]

Exactly. When I go out with the chilruns I look for a non smoking establishment. When I go out with the boys I look for a place where we can smoke.

"What most people really object to when they object to a free market is that it is so hard for them to shape it to their own will. The market gives people what the people want instead of what other people think they ought to want. At the bottom of many criticisms of the market economy is really lack of belief in freedom itself. The essence of political freedom is the absence of coercion of one man by his fellow men. The fundamental danger to political freedom is the concentration of power. The existence of a large measure of power in the hands of a relatively few individuals enables them to use it to coerce their fellow men. Preservation of freedom requires either the elimination of power where that is possible, or its dispersal where it cannot be eliminated. It essentially requires a system of checks and balances, like that explicitly incorporated in our Constitution..."

-- Milton Friedman, The New Liberal's Creed: Individual Freedom, Preserving Dissent Are Ultimate Goals," May 18, 1961

[Eric Blair 2084]

That is where we are heading for at warp speed. Baby killer as the GOP nominee. He will need a fellow liberal who is a pro life, pro gun and appeals to evangelicals.

Who do we know who fits the bill?

[AFreeBird]

He wants to ban smokers from their favorite bars and restaurants, smokers can vote to ban him from the White House.

Didn't really like the guy to begin with; this just puts another nail in his political coffin for me.

smokers can vote to ban him from the White House.

DONE!

[Doe Eyes]

If you want to reduce smoking, require non-smoking as a prereq for receiving medicaid. Or perhaps an ad campaign. But coercive methods such as bans and taxes just won’t work.

Coddling addicts has never worked. Make it illegal and throw the junkies in jail.

[Hot Tabasco]

smokers can vote to ban him from the White House.

Thats a done deal in my house. Any candidate with any "ban" in his background is toast in my opinion........but then again, that just might preclude me from voting for anybody.

[WestSylvanian]

Rich Lowry is one of the “conservative” columnists who is promoting Huckabee as a perfect running mate for Giuliani. We haven’t even voted yet and the elites are already putting the ticket together for us.

[alarm rider]

I’m with you. This guy is a nanny state totalitarian. Liberty? Individual rights? Yeah, this dude is a Republican and if I have a choice between him and Rooty, then I am not voting. I dare any of you “fear the ultimate power of Hillary” types to argue the point.

[eXe]

Calling smokers “addicts” has never worked either.

Smoking wasn’t considered an “addiction” until the Surgeon General changed the definition of addiction to specifically include the smoking of tobacco.

It was considered a habit. Habitually is a quite different thing from addiction.

[ari-freedom]

well...there is smoking in most prisons.

[Eric Blair 2084]

Rich Lowry is one of the “conservative” columnists who is promoting Huckabee as a perfect running mate for Giuliani. We haven’t even voted yet and the elites are already putting the ticket together for us.

The GOP hasn't quite pulled off the perfect retarded ticket yet. A baby killer isn't good enough. We need a socialist do gooder in clerical garb to pull off something really incredible...PISSING OFF BOTH THE SOCIAL CONSERVATIVE AND LIBERTARIAN WINGS OF THE PARTY AND GETTING ZERO VOTES.

It's their chance to become legends and do something that has never been accomplished since the WHIG party disbanded and the GOP was formed.... Socons won't vote for a thrice married***** baby killer, and the libertarians won't vote for a social engineering, liberal nanny state do gooder, smoker banner, GW alarmist, open border 3rd world takeover, tax raiser. It will be a...

****In all fairness to Rudy, any man who has ever heard one of Donna Hanovers' hysterical rants could understand why he ran for the hills.

[Eric Blair 2084]

I’ll give you a chance to please ‘splain Lucy. What are you trying to say.

[Eric Blair 2084]

Make sure you let them know WHY. This nanny state crap will continue ad nauseam until voters threaten to take nanny state politicians’ power away.

They are addicted to power and control. If they lose it, they will go into convulsions.

[GOP_Lady]

Like I’ve said, Eric ... Here we have Huckabee (a Baptist) telling us how to live and Romney (a Mormon) who doesn’t. It’s quite telling, isn’t it?

[Eric Blair 2084]

Are you stalking me again? Good, this should be great for entertainment value. Get your popcorn ready everyone. Let's all take a swing at the Wheezer taliban pinata.

This is more fun than cable TV.