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Caution: A Booster Seat Can Injure You (But It Was for The Children!)
JSOnline ^ | October 27, 2007 | Raquel Rutledge

Posted on 10/28/2007 6:01:06 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin

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To: Diogenesis

OK, I don’t get it.

Acceleration is the rate at which something is increasing it’s velocity. Right? Why is this relevant to the force generated when a mass moving at a particular velocity stops suddenly?

I suspect we’re saying the same thing. That the acceleration in question is actually the deceleration created when the mass stops moving.


21 posted on 10/28/2007 6:44:17 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: MIT-Elephant
Exponentially greater than its weight?

Yes. F=1/2MV^2

22 posted on 10/28/2007 7:00:39 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Is human activity causing the warming trend on Mars?)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Mr. Clark should sue the children! :-) How are you?


23 posted on 10/28/2007 7:01:21 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: Sherman Logan

The force is one half the mass times the square of the velocity, so doubling the speed quadruples the force of the impact.


24 posted on 10/28/2007 7:03:18 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Is human activity causing the warming trend on Mars?)
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To: Squawk 8888

Thanks, that makes a lot more sense.


25 posted on 10/28/2007 7:04:23 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: VOA

I still remember riding a bus to Montréal on the 401 when we passed a car that had a shelf behind the back seat. There was a kid lying across it sleeping :-O


26 posted on 10/28/2007 7:05:54 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Is human activity causing the warming trend on Mars?)
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To: Sherman Logan

You indeed answered your own question. Deceleration is simply negative acceleration; the force is the same but in the opposite direction.


27 posted on 10/28/2007 7:07:10 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Is human activity causing the warming trend on Mars?)
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To: Sherman Logan

Deceleration is called negative acceleration in physics. What determines the force exerted by an object when it stops is its mass times the acceleration. The acceleration is determined by the changed in velocity divided by the time of the collision. That time is usually very small, so the acceleration is huge. Therefore the force exerted by the child seat is pretty big.


28 posted on 10/28/2007 7:08:08 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: shbox
Me and my brothers usually sat in my mom’s lap and chewed on a toy painted with lead paint.

Your Mom and ours must have been good pals.

We'd practice with our Daisy BB rifles from the front seat, and hand Mom canned Daquiris from the cooler (a huge Coleman aluminum jobbie kept conveniently right behind the passenger seat) and light her Pall Malls. The back seat was mostly for our empty KFC boxes.

29 posted on 10/28/2007 7:10:23 PM PDT by angkor ("Hyeah right. The man who singlehandedly killed ManBearPig is a loser." Al Gore, South Park 10.06)
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To: Squawk 8888; Sherman Logan
The force is one half the mass times the square of the velocity, so doubling the speed quadruples the force of the impact.

No, that is kinetic energy, not force. See post #28. The change in speed divided by the time of collision determines the force exerted by a mass.

30 posted on 10/28/2007 7:12:37 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: Sherman Logan
Impact force equals mass times velocity.

No, that is momentum. Momentum is not force. Again, see post #28. The key thing is change in speed divided by time.

31 posted on 10/28/2007 7:15:20 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: Leo Farnsworth
If I had children, which I do not, they would be in the from seat with me

So you don't have airbags, right?

32 posted on 10/28/2007 7:19:37 PM PDT by blu (All grammar and punctuation rules are *OFF* for the "24" thread.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Nothing on the booster seat next to him that June afternoon - no warning label or anything - suggested it should be belted to the car, he said.

They don't print that on anvils either, but most would agree it's obvious.

If I had known it could have been a problem, I clearly would have suggested that maybe we want to take the seat out of the car," he said.

I feel for this guy, I really do. He's been in a terrible accident which unfortunately was exacerbated by his and his friends lack of common sense and attention. Problem is, behind him is standing some ambulance-chasing lawyer fishing for a lawsuit.

33 posted on 10/28/2007 7:20:00 PM PDT by SwedishConservative
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To: Chickensoup
The MythBusters did something with Kleenex box in the back of a car that comes to a sudden stop, but I can't remember the details.

I think to demonstrate the dangers of having something with more mass than the box of tissues, they may have stuck a bowling ball in the back for the finale.

34 posted on 10/28/2007 7:25:55 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Calvin Locke
they may have stuck a bowling ball in the back for the finale

I prefer the unsecured dual speakers with 5 pound magnets and plenty of sharp edges. If you don't have those, several concrete blocks with machetes attached will do.

35 posted on 10/28/2007 7:45:50 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: SampleMan

“Why not the front hood? Much better view.”

Dude, you know that isn’t done until High School.


36 posted on 10/28/2007 8:04:18 PM PDT by art_rocks
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To: blu; Leo Farnsworth

Nor a spouse apparently.


37 posted on 10/28/2007 8:06:18 PM PDT by Philly Nomad
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To: shbox

Actually, if you poll enough of a sample, you will find people who lost siblings who were riding in the back of a pickup.

In high school I made a comment about being in the back of the pickup and standing. A classmate said that was what his sister was doing before she died.


38 posted on 10/28/2007 8:08:14 PM PDT by art_rocks
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To: Right Wing Assault
Sherman Logan

My bad- I said force but should've said energy.

39 posted on 10/28/2007 8:18:22 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Is human activity causing the warming trend on Mars?)
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To: Right Wing Assault
The MythBusters also did a show with a huge woofer they fabricated. 3ft diameter sticks in my mind.

I think they used the rubber from an inner tube to support the cone.

40 posted on 10/28/2007 8:26:51 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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